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Tory or not-Tory - this should make you giggle
Brilliant.
Just heard the idiot on the radio saying nobody ever told him it was against the rules. As we all know he will get away with it and continue to lie each and every week .
He categorically denies that anyone told him that the party was against the rules.
Cummings is prepared to swear under oath that both he and one other person very explicitly told Johnson that it was, and that Johnson has lied to parliament.
Presumably Johnson will now sue Cummings for both slander and libel to prove that he is telling the truth………nah don’t hold your breath.
Im still not on board with this Sue Gray inquiry. We know the main facts already, we have seen the pics, seen the emails, seen the denials and then seen the admissions. Unfortunately we then witnessed the most excruciating, cringeworthy lie. So what makes people think that Johnson will sit there and tell anything resembling the truth to Sue Gray? Its a **** show, a whitewash and quite pathetic that our country is being dragged through the gutters because of this.
I honestly believe that the polls will jump back in favour of the Tories if they got rid of Johnson. All he is doing is damaging them. All those complicit in his bullshit will be tarred as the nodding, unethical lapdogs they are. Get rid, show the British public that lies and corruption wont be tolerated nevermind supported and watch them regain some sense of trust.
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I mean it’s a bit late for that we’ve been tolerating it for years and voting for more like the abused wives we are.
See my earlier post on foreign press reaction. They don’t need Sue Gray to draw the only logical conclusions either.
But Sue Gray might be trapped here. She has presumably interviewed Cummings as well as Johnson. One of them has lied to her. In the past (Damian ‘****er’ Green) she has used the clever form of words xxx’s account is plausible when confronted with 2 conflicting versions of the same thing. If she says Cummings’ version is plausible then it implies Johnson is lying and has lied to parliament.
Even if she says the opposite it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that Johnson is an idiot if he can’t recognise a party in his own garden when his wife, not on the Government payroll I think, turned up and necked a load of gin (apparently), odd behaviour for a ‘work meeting’.
Youve got to remember that some people are ever so simple, read a headline and take it as gospel, or believe what Dave tells them in the local chip shop. The media have been all over this, hence the outrage, just like the media were all over brexit and the EU banning kettles! The uproar that caused on site was hilarious!
A liar against a liar, unfortunately two negatives dont make a positive in this scenario
We know there was a party, we know Johnson went. Thats not even up for debate and after 'the dog ate my homework' excuse, its just got more embarassing as it drags out. But Sue Gray will most likely tell us, there was an event, i cant prove it was a party and i cant prove Johnson believed it was a party.
I think the main conclusion from all this is that Cummings is a weapons-grade slimeball who was quite happy to let Boris defend him over the Barnard Castle pile-on and other crap he was up to yet throws him under a bus when suits. I doubt anyone in government would touch him with a bargepole now.
As for Boris he's passed the tipping point where, like Blair before him, there's no coming back from with the voters. Frankly, he and Cummings deserved each other, sadly, we have to pick up the pieces...
As for Boris he's passed the tipping point where, like Blair before him, there's no coming back from with the voters. Frankly, he and Cummings deserved each other, sadly, we have to pick up the pieces...
Yep we do have to pick up the pieces. More importantly though Sooper, johnson was quite happy to defend and cover up Cummings bullshit. Thats our ****ing PM for christs sake.
Nobody told me the rules
Well you ****ing told everyone else them on a daily bastard basis you slimy lying ****
Well you ****ing told everyone else them on a daily bastard basis you slimy lying ****
This lot remind me of the Major government, going nowhere. For Labour to be so far ahead now without any strategy speaks volumes....
At the moment, for the Tories, it's death by a thousand cuts.
I imagine many Tory MP's are hoping for something pretty damning and conclusive from Gray, which will give them something to hang their hat on when they send in the letters of no confidence to the 1922 Committee.
I imagine many Tory MP's are hoping for something pretty damning and conclusive from Gray, which will give them something to hang their hat on when they send in the letters of no confidence to the 1922 Committee.