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Mags embarrassing themselves yet again

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    This is what you said ... 'hardly gets in the team these days' ...

    ... only one player has started more games <laugh>

    https://fbref.com/en/squads/b2b47a98/Newcastle-United-Stats
     
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  2. Charlie Dogscock

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    Put that one down to wishful thinking then.
     
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    You were wrong, as you were when you said the dross has been cleared out ... it hasn't.
     
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  4. Charlie Dogscock

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    Once again, what players are still left from our relegation team? Lascelles, Dummett, Shelvey and Darlow, who were all decent back then.
     
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    Exactly, some of the dross is still there, as I said.

    I don't know enough about your team to have all the facts but you do keep making false statements.

    And, while you're on, why was Cisse dross ...

    ... I thought he scored around 1 in 3 games, is anyone you have now any better.
     
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  6. Charlie Dogscock

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    They weren't dross back then though, they were playing well and hence they stayed after relegation. Refer to the previous list I gave you for what constituted the dross.

    Cisse was incredible for the first 5 months after we signed him, then pretty dreadful for the next 4 years. Managed a whole 3 goals in the season we went down.
     
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    Ah righto so they're dross when you decide ...

    ... despite subsequent managers thinking they know better <laugh>

    Howe thinks Lascelles is first choice, so your description of him being dross is just opinion, not fact.
     
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    Well yeah, pretty much everything I say is opinion not fact.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    So your claims to be on here to correct our 'errors' is based only on your opinions and nothing else ...

    ... how on earth did we manage until you showed up <doh>

    So far you've made more errors than we have <laugh>
     
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    They may never be seen again.:bandit:

     
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    Perhaps they can take in a stoning or two while they're there <doh>
     
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  12. Charlie Dogscock

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    You're not really getting this are you Smug?

    It is hard to say the statement "Jamaal Lascelles used to be good but now he is bad" is a fact, because it is based on subjective opinion. One could cite that Chelsea were sniffing around him previously and now we'd be lucky to sell him to Slough Town as evidence, but you still can't prove it is a fact, cos someone could just say "no he wasn't" in response and there argument would be just as strong, ie its also an opinion.

    Facts are facts when they can't be disputed, ie when I said Cisse scored 3 goals in his last season with us, that was a fact cos he DID score 3 goals.
     
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    I'd stay in large groups and no where near any tall buildings
     
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    You said Lascelles hardly ever plays despite starting more games than every Newcastle player but one ...

    ... how am I wrong.

    If all you have are random opinions I don't see what value you have on here tbh.
     
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  15. Charlie Dogscock

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    Just today?

    - because you claim "the dross" is still there despite me specifically telling you which players I was referring to as the dross
    - because you seem to think a subjective opinion can be classed as a fact
    - because you were enquiring whether Wood would take the no 9 shirt despite Wilson already having it
    - because you where questioning Woods Premier league scoring ability despite the fact he's been the clubs top scorer for the last 4 season with double figures in each season
    - because you were making out Cisse's goal scoring ability was decent despite the fact he only scored 3 in his last season.
    - because you were singing Fat Sam's praise with reference to him being England manager, when that experience led to him being a laughing stock

    I could go on, but I'm bored of looking through the posts now.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    And that's the problem you have that I mentioned when you first decided to bless us with your wisdom.

    You don't see that this thread is just a pisstake and contains horsehshite because it's just a bit of daft fun ...

    ... we don't care if it would all stand up in court ffs.

    The title is about Mags embarrassing themselves, something you appear to excel at tbh.
     
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    Milburn will be turning in his grave tonight <doh>


     
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  18. Charlie Dogscock

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    Great response Smug, the bit you added in to my post shows that as well as your point being wrong, you STILL don't understand the point I was making.

    As this has degenerated into a lame battle of semantics bullshit I'm off now, I did think we may have been getting somewhere when you asked me what I thought the score against Watford would be, but you went straight back to "wah Lascelles plays more wah" and "dross this dross that".
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    As a Newcastle supporter you claimed Lascelles hardly ever plays these days ...

    ... as a Sunderland supporter, who shouldn't know better, I had to correct you.

    Not semantics at all, you were wrong.

    I think you're wrong about the Watford score as well, it'll be 1-1 and Howe will be booed.

    (That's an opinion, not a fact btw ... see the difference.)
     
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  20. Charlie Dogscock

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    As I said wishful thinking cos I like to expulge him from my memory.

    And I refer you to my 6 points above, so fine I'll take that one, leaving the score at 6-1 to me <doh>
     
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