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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    In my experience, many organisations run with a minimum level of staffing anyway, to save on wages; it doesn’t take much of an upsurge in sickness or absence to put services at risk, if you were understaffed to begin with (and already making unreasonable demands on existing staff).
     
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  2. Schad

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    Hell, Amazon -- that great bastion of privately run logistics expertise -- suspended all of their on-time Prime guarantees well over a year ago. Orders that used to take three days (maximum) to arrive rarely arrive in less than 10 days. I've had orders on our Amazon business account that didn't even ship for over a week, and everything is meant to ship next-day.

    Basically, anything that cannot be more-or-less adequately done from home is somewhere pretty severely impeded and/or outright crippled.
     
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  3. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

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    I'm listening to the PM's news conference, and I'm disappointed that he's concentrated on Covid, with hardly any mention of our takeover. Sort out your priorities, Boris!
     
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  4. Paddy Podped

    Paddy Podped Well-Known Member

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/59884125


    Ive said from the start this is what should happen in any professional team sport. Would take out any element of clubs playing the system, and also the current unfair penalisation of the ‘small outbreak’
     
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  5. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't come up during PMQs either.
     
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  6. Number 1 Jasper

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    Truth is stranger than fiction ?



     
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  7. davecg69

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    Great programme!!
     
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  8. San Tejón

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  9. tomw24

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    Excellent, multiple reports saying NHS won't become overwhelmed by Omicron so no further restrictions needed. So, as I thought, Wales and Scotland have completely overreacted.
     
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    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I agree, though my thinking was along the lines of pragmatism...we just have to get on with living with Covid...can’t hide for ever. To be fair to the Welsh and Scots governments (wow, yes I did just say that :))...they could have been right.
     
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  11. AberdeenSaint

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    Drakeford and Sturgeon have to react to the data presented and take measures deemed appropriate considering the circumstances in their countries. Question - what good does it do Sturgeon to impose restrictions any longer than she considers necessary ?
     
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  12. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Drakeford and Sturgeon don't have a large group of backbenchers ready to stab them in the back if they impose restrictions.
     
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  13. StJabbo1

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    A doctor refuses to be vaccinated. It's worth reading the BBC reality check to get the full story not just the clip.

    "Dr James says he is not against all Covid vaccination but feels he was framed as such online, after opposing compulsory jabs.

    He describes himself as "pro-choice and pro-vaccine", saying his point was specifically about the science behind the mandate, not the vaccine itself.

    But another NHS hospital doctor, Dr Meenal Viz, who spends her spare time online correcting misinformation, told BBC News she feared the clip of Dr James would be seized on by those who wanted to suggest the science for the vaccine, in general, was not strong enough - despite the huge weight of evidence from hundreds of independent institutions and millions of people that it prevented disease and death.

    This fits into a pattern she regularly sees online, where short clips, single statistics or lines from a scientific study taken out of context can "completely blow up" and cause more confusion than straightforward falsehoods.

    "her fears were not misplaced.

    Dr James's comments were eagerly seized on by those against vaccination, including some promoting false theories such as the virus is a hoax".
     
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  14. StJabbo1

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    Please post some links to these reports.
    I want to know why so many NHS trusts are declaring critical incidents, setting up surge hubs and a deal being done with private hospitals to cope. I don't find the situation in the UK, across Europe and further afield at all reassuring.
    https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-31/nhs-risks-being-overwhelmed-by-omicron-quite-quickly
    https://www.nhsconfed.org/articles/omicron-urgent-action-needed-nhs-staffing-crisis
    https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o3
     
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    SRL did that on Instagram the other day, misquoting that doctor on his page. I called him out on it and I actually managed to have a short conversation with him about it.

    I said that the doctor was making a good case for a short term medical exemption from vaccination, but he wasn't giving any evidence that was against vaccination itself. I said I believed that ICU doctors should take every precaution to protect their patients from infection. He asked me if I believed that vaccination protected patients and I said yes and pointed out that the doctor he was quoting said it did too and didn't want to be vaccinated because he already had antibodies.

    Then he went all conspiracy on me and talked about how all independent experts are coming out and saying I'm wrong and I'll soon have nowhere to turn. I asked if that meant he disagreed with the doctor he was quoted who said it does reduce transmission in his interview and he blocked me.

    I was being really polite throughout too.


    Its really sad what misinformation does to people. I loved him as a Saints player.
     
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  16. tomw24

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    It was in either the Telegraph or the Guardian or Independent. The NHS chief himself was quoted as saying the NHS is not being overwhelmed in the majority of hospitals.
     
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  17. StJabbo1

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    It was? You're claiming numerous articles. I've been searching but found nothing but warnings as the links I posted.
     
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  18. AberdeenSaint

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    If the majority of hospitals are not being overwhelmed, then it is because the majority of people have cared enough to get vaccinated. No thanks to Djokovic and anti-vaxers of his ilk.
     
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  19. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    As I mentioned last week my grandkids and son in law got corony, whilst myself my better half and daughter didn’t.

    IMO that was 100% down to the vaccine as I am triple jabbed, my other half and daughter double. My son in law was double jabbed but not since April.

    Anti-vaxers will say it is a hoax etc and it proves it, but in my mind the vaccination saved me from illness.


    Edit: with all these Saints No7s turning out to be idiots, my name on here is a homage to Shane Long now.
     
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  20. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    When faced with the comparison between pre and post vaccination hospitalisation, ICU patients and mortality rates anti-vaxxers are piffle paffle wiffle waffle. Covidiot conspiraloons I can see no merit in their arguments.
     
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