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Match Day Thread Wycombe Wanderers v Sunderland – Saturday 8th January 2022 - KO 12:30

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Jan 6, 2022.

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Your prediction

Poll closed Jan 8, 2022.
  1. Home win

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  2. Away win (Safc)

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  3. Draw

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  1. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    Being very close to giving a penalty away isn’t bad defending. Giving a penalty away is. If you make a slide tackle and just get the ball, it’s very close to giving away a penalty.

    Not going to watch it back to assess his performance. No point really. I’d rather watch it back to enjoy the good football we played.

    Also, can you remember any if the good headers he made or tackles he made, as there were quite a few of them in the game too.
     
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  2. Dancingstripes

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    I can remember a couple of good blocks. But over the course of 90 minutes he has to do something right.

    Was a great game and great performance by the team. I’m sure you will enjoy watching it back.
     
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  4. samwise_new

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    he did miss it, but did you also miss the fact that akinfatboy pushed him which caused him to miss the header?

    he has been a lot better this season yet you still seem to want to blame him and look for anything he may get wrong through a game, gooch (another that gets pelters) set stewart up for a fairly easy goal chance and he put it over the bar so shall we all blame stewart for 'losing us the game'...i swear down if burge was still our main keeper and kept a dozen clean sheets including some amazing saves and penalty saves, the first game he made a mistake he would get slagged from all angles, some fans just will not let these agendas go.

    take another look and watch flannos blocks before their first goal, if he was 'at fault' for any of their goals he quite possibly stopped at least another one.
     
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  5. clockstander

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    I think Flanagans form has dipped slightly in recent games, both he and Doyle struggled against the Wycome onslaught, but they do, and do end games strongly, especially at home. Bailey Wright was a big miss for us as we coped well without the other absentees. Attackers had the upper hand against defenders on both sides imo and this gave us an excitiong game to watch, which imo would have been our best performance of the season until that cruel last gasp equaliser. On reflection it was a case of being so close to a dream result which really hurt , but an away point is not a bad result in the scheme of things OaU.
     
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  6. Dancingstripes

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    Akinfenwa was streetwise and Flanagan got brushed aside far too easily. He charged in to head it, missed it, which left a big gap behind him which they nearly scored from, got a corner from, and scored from that.

    You talk about Flanagan making a couple of decent blocks? That’s what he’s paid to do!!! The difference is, good defenders make the blocks and leave out the mistakes, Flanagan was littered with them all game.

    Im not criticising his whole season, just Saturdays game where IMO he cost us 3 points.

    I don’t like to be negative towards safc and very rarely am, only if I feel it’s justified and fair.

    I have praised Stewart and Pritchard in this same thread, and will praise Flanagan if he makes the difference in a positive way tomorrow night.
     
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  7. samwise_new

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    but he missed an absolute sitter, we 'would' have won 4-3 if he scored that, he also had an open goal to head the ball at yet he did not head it hard enough to avoid their lad clearing it...you see what i mean now?

    it is easy to look at 'a certain player' and find fault, i have not watched the whole 90 again but off hand i can remember several players making mistakes that we could say 'cost us'...akinfenwa came into flanno on his blind side was how i saw it, you saw it as flanno being pushed off the ball too easy...look at stewarts headed goal and see how the defender is far too easy pushed off the ball, watch how SNQ used to find so much space in the area...timing those little nudges is part of the game, get it right and the other player has no chance of getting the ball.

    we all watch the same game but see different things, depending what we look for.
     
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  8. Dancingstripes

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    I’d advise you watch the game again mate.
     
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  9. samwise_new

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    honestly?

    i dont need to mate, there were many mistakes throughout the game and flanno missing a header after being nudged was far from the worst..i would advise we all watch the games rather than sit waiting for one player to make a mistake so we can blame the whole outcome on him.
     
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  10. clockstander

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    Am I the only one who enjoys watching Akinfenwa, he is a one off imo.
     
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  11. Dancingstripes

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    I’m giving an observation, that I’ve backed up, on a players performance.

    Ive praised different players in the same game.

    It’s also the first time I’ve mentioned Flanagan in a negative light.

    It’s hardly waiting on him to make a mistake so I can blame the outcome on him.
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

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    He’s an absolute tank. But I hate him. I know for certain that Ross Stewart’s shirt brushes a player who falls over and he gets penalised. Akinfenwa assaults a defender and gets nothing.

    I’d say he’s one I’d have liked at Sunderland but he wouldn’t get away with it for us.he’d be sent off every 4 or 5 games!!

    Anyone who says “should be stronger” against him should try pushing a 20 stone fit person out of the way. It’s impossible. You bounce off. Literally. I’m 11 stone. I used to play footy with a lad 18 stone. You literally can’t be “strong” against someone that size. It’s physically impossible
     
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  13. cumbrianmackem

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    How did the Ref laugh off him having Goochie in a headlock and spinning him round, violent conduct red card imo.
     
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  14. young2077

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    Cause the bloke has some kind of cult status. If he wasn't allowed to chuck his weight about would he even be a professional footballer?

    Cause he is unique in his size he seems to have his own rules.
     
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  15. samwise_new

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    oh i accept he is not a player who coasts through games without the odd mistake (sometimes more than 'the odd' i also grant you) but to simply blame him for them scoring and therefore 'costing us 3 points' is wrong imho, we could and maybe should point more fingers at the three times a better first touch may well have been another goal or the ross stewart miss plus the clearance, we could say if flanno had made contact with that header we might have broke away and scored.

    my point being that there are plenty of mistakes in each game, unfortunately the defence and the keeper have no one behind them to get them out of the sh1t when they mess up so their mistakes or bad moves tend to get noticed and highlighted far more (burge being a classic example, while he is nowhere near the best we have had or maybe could have, he has also made some game winning saves that some tend to forget when he makes his next mistake), we cannot say 'well he nearly did this or nearly cost us a penalty' as much as we can say 'well if he hit it first time he would have scored and not missed' we can go through ifs and buts till the cows come home but what happened, happened...i feel it was a good point won against a difficult opponent and we came very close to 'nicking' all three.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    He's gone one worse than that now, brought a naked man with a horn into the dressing room <laugh>

    On the plus side they actually managed a shot on goal yesterday, just the one but it's progress.
     
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  18. John Wick

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    haha. Afternoon Mr Smug. I seen that, all the players were "wft". lol
     
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    He did what??? Was it a stag do or something??
    That sounds like the basis of a joke you'd here in the pub after 12 pints.
     
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  20. Oliver's Army

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    Did you miss it........

     
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