Maybe Ilicali’s team has spoken to a senior officer, not this unnamed councillor. Does that mean a conversation hasn’t yet happened?
Do you think the unnamed councillor has spoken to everyone in the council, and has access to all conversations subject a NDA? That’s not how it works I’m afraid.
There are 57 councillors at Hull City Council and many of them hate each other, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if one doesn't have any idea what another one has done.
It’s not official information though is it. It’s an unnamed councillor. And if a conversation is subject to a NDA, by definition it can’t be spread across the council’s elected members. Anyway, it’s all speculation and time will tell.
If it's subject to an NDA it can't be disclosed to the public, not to other councillors if it's a discussion relevant to the Council. Perhaps, but it's all a bit he said she said now, people are being a bit silly. As I said in an earlier post, if people are going to treat these sorts of reports with this sort of skepticism, then nothing reporting on anything is reliable.
Not quite, if a reporter say he has spoken to Bill Bloggs and Bill Bloggs said ... then of course it may be reliable. However "the Council" is a different thing all together, many individuals with differing views who have to get together in committee meetings and come up with an agreement. But in saying that if I were interested in buying Hull City and the SMC I would be sounding out all sorts of connected people, groups and businesses.
You really don't understand councils or councillors! (understandably by the way, not having a pop) They're not a collective with one agreed line to trot out, they're not all involved in the same things, they're not all in the same political parties, they don't all get info on everything...they are members of the public who have been voted in to represent the people that live in their area. I know for a fact that some conversations are going on with the leader, cabinet members, portfolio leads, senior officers etc etc that you could find queues of councillors who wouldn't know were happening. That's not criticising them either by the way. It's how Councils work. * I'm not talking about conversations about City by the way, although I do know there have been conversations about City in teh past that not all councillors will have been aware of.
-> "Defending them ? I saw the 'Airco Arena' episode from both sides. The SMC were picking up the £300k a year shortfall on the running costs of it. Meaning those using it were not paying enough rent to meet the running costs. Allegedly, I say that because I am not the accountant for the then Airco, but it was £300k in the red every year. Someone had to pick up that bill. I believe the argument at the time from the Allams was that HCC should be providing facilities for these groups and it was not down to the SMC to subsidise them. James Mooney worked tirelessly to find all those groups displaced alternative accommodation and I believe the club offered to meet any removal costs. There was a dispute over the ownership of the trampolines. I'm not privvy to the facts but the group using them also claimed them as there own. I have visited the arena recently since the club took it over and to a Hull City supporter it is a sight for sore eyes. Scores of youngsters all wearing black and amber being coached football skills on an all weather pitch and watched by their proud parents. Isn't that also grass roots ?" -> "I wasn’t fully aware of all of the arguments about the Airco issue, but wasnt the problem that the Allams assumed control of a building that in all intents and purposes was there to fulfil a wider community role than helping our academy? I genuinely don’t know the answer to this but did the SMC/City discuss with the clubs that the arena was losing money and they’d have to increase rent or shut it down? Yes, it's great that we have "scores of youngsters all wearing black and amber being coached football skills"'. Fantastic. BUT that could and should have been achieved in a way that didn't involve the utterly despicable hijack of the Airco, and the manner in which it was done. It was an appalling act. As for the Airco losing money (if that was the case) the fact is that the Allam's chose to take on the SMC in the first place, as a job lot, good and the bad. And then they've had tens of millions of income, a part of which could and should have been used to create our own facilities not to steal a community facility in the way they did.
Well, we're now past the halfway point of page 1532 of the thread I'm staking a provisional claim for winner of the 'New Owner Sweepstake' title. Provisional because it still isn't a 'done deal' and he's yet to be seen waving his flag at the MKM. Any appeals or other such jiggery-pokery should be lodged with @DMD and will be subject to scrutiny under the T&C's of the board etc, etc...
I understand that, I'm just suggesting that if there was an approach to the Council as a collective, I would have thought that the councillors would be informed before speaking to the media. Perhaps if as you're suggesting, this Councillor just wasn't informed of another discussion, a clarifying comment will be issued, however, the longer it goes unchallenged/corrected...
If i knew a property or function I have some interest in . was it appears , about to be sold I might be proactive and ask about it with current owners. Then maybe make some contact with the prospective new owners with full confidentiality. I suppose that’s a bit much to ask really of our council- but if they have no interest then all this talk is irrelevant .
OK An approach to the council as a collective is highly unlikely. With the exception of someone writing a letter titled 'Dear The Council' and dropping it off at Guildhall the vast majority of approaches will go to a specific person, or department. (Even that aforementioned letter would be only sent to a specific person once opened) Councillors are not informed of everything before speaking to the media...the media ask them things and some of them respond some don't. Some of them would as for advice before responding, some of them wouldn't. The Council will feel no need to put out a clarifying comment. They may well say something when it's done, they may not It's just how it is
