1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    72,143
    Likes Received:
    59,436
    Better than Kakay I expect.
     
    #70301
  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    117,060
    Likes Received:
    235,537
    Failing that how about a virus that doesn't effect the first world
    No one would be in a rush to find a vaccine
     
    #70302
    Goldhawk-Road likes this.
  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    Jawohl...
     
    #70303
  4. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Another year…another Shadow Education Secretary… another hopeless droid. Where did they make this model? Hopeless. <doh>
     
    #70304
  5. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    31,241
    Likes Received:
    29,412
    Apple now ‘worth’ $3 trillion, higher than the U.K. GDP, and the entire FTSE.

    Capitalism. Doncha just luv it???!!!!???


    Sent from my iPad
     
    #70305
    SW Ranger, kiwiqpr, BobbyD and 4 others like this.
  6. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    18,613
    Likes Received:
    28,533
    Do you own any shares, maybe even in Apple? Their products are quite good, aren’t they?
     
    #70306
    kiwiqpr likes this.
  7. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    117,060
    Likes Received:
    235,537
    Wish I did
    $29 to $180 a share over five years
     
    #70307
    Uber_Hoop likes this.
  8. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    I don't particularly like Capitalism, but is there a viable alternative?
    Our political system seems broken beyond repair, but I can't really come up with a solution.
    Just feels like we all have to do whatever we can to make the best of life IN SPITE of the way the world has become.
     
    #70308
    Goldhawk-Road likes this.
  9. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Communism has worked well. <doh>
     
    #70309
  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    117,060
    Likes Received:
    235,537
    It did for the ones that were more equal than others
     
    #70310
    Goldhawk-Road, ELLERS and Uber_Hoop like this.

  11. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    I see that lying #### Geoff Hoon has turned on Blair by saying he was told to ‘bum’ war memo.
    This is the #### that lied about our armed forces having all the best equipment knowing they were sharing bullets and vests and where I live a saw first hand tanks being stripped for parts as we didn’t have enough.
    Funny social media goes into a frenzy if there’s a party yet many are skipping over one of the most devious lies in our history.
    Shameful.
     
    #70311
  12. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Capitalism works better than all the others because you will always have greedy people who want more.
     
    #70312
  13. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    I can't come up with a viable alternative but I now firmly believe that Capitalism isn't the answer.
    We're having to fight tooth and nail for Mrs Rangercol's mum to get the right care following her stroke, having obstacles put in our way at every turn to prevent various organisations having to part with any money.
    Meanwhile, there's an obscene amount of money sloshing around at the top end of society, with big pharmaceuticals making billions out of a pandemic and other massive companies and rich individuals making so much money that they'll never need it all.
    Politicians lie about almost everything and there doesn't seem to me to be a solution.
     
    #70313
    Hoop-Leif, Willhoops, bobmid and 2 others like this.
  14. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Firstly Col I am sorry to hear about Mrs RC mum. My late father had a stroke and it was a horrific time for my family. The whole thing has mentally scared me. And I agree about Pharma companies and other organisations. However there has been many ideologies in the past and no matter how hard they tried to work there will always be someone who wants more or someone who doesn’t get enough.
     
    #70314
  15. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    Capitalism with the right checks and balances is the answer. Society must promote aspiration and reward, but the most successful must plough plenty back to grass roots.
     
    #70315
    ELLERS likes this.
  16. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    We need another Anti-capitalist day in London again. I cant wait to see all those activists turn up in their designer clothes to smash up a McDonalds only to be seen 30 mins later eating a Burger King.
    We could get to see Charlotte Church come on stage to speak... but only for 10 minutes because her chauffer needs to get her to the 'heli-pad' so she can board her private helicopter to fly her her (like before). But never fear Emma Thompson will be there! Flying in first class from her multi-million dollar home in the US to tell us how we should live? The ususal suspects causing problems with the police... until next week when it will be that extinction thing or Insulation... or whatever is this weeks colour orange.
    I cant wait!
     
    #70316
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2022
    Goldhawk-Road likes this.
  17. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    All well and good in theory, but is failing in my opinion.
    As I say, I have no solutions and readily admit that what we're going through at the moment is very much affecting my thinking.
     
    #70317
  18. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    Thank you.

    As I say, I'm not suggesting an alternative that has been tried before etc etc.
    However, I am starting to think that something really has to change across the board.
     
    #70318
    ELLERS likes this.
  19. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    117,060
    Likes Received:
    235,537
    Anything at all you would prefer to capitalism
     
    #70319
  20. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    I've said repeatedly that I don't have the answer.
    Something that makes society fairer.

    You?
     
    #70320

Share This Page