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  1. DMD

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    What would you sit in that very broad category you call "health"?

    Part of the current problem is that measures that can impact on health, such as roads, greener transport, healthy lifestyles, fall outside of that, so the 'health' savings don't necessarily get included in the business plan. If they did, then they'd be liable to be funded better, as the savings to the NHS would be a factor.
     
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  2. DMD

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    There were HR related packages that were not fit for purpose on top of those too.
     
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    Add in the increase in people that decide that taking their dog on a day out shopping .
     
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    I suppose at first thought , costs directly associated with a NHS worth its name. Infrastructure, equipment, staff training and the things that might immediately be associated with what it stands for. When it was established, the core values are what people to this day hope to get from it. Too bored a brush stroke I admit, but its just my thought process...
     
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  5. DMD

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    I think another factor that gets missed is that there are now around 10,000,000 more people in the UK than there were in 2000.
     
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    Which is kind of what happens, albeit from a number of separate pots. What that misses are the other measures that could actually reduce the burden (ie be a saving) to the NHS if the health impacts were factored in appropriately.

    It means for example Highways are unlikely to fund additional measures that would improve health if it was to come out of their budget, with no increase in what they receive, and the health bods are unlikely to want to fund another Department, which means these things get done peace-meal, or not at all.
     
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    I don’t have an annual health check, or private healthcare, I use the NHS like most other people.

    My sister in law is obese and now refuses to go to the doctors, due to them always giving her a hard time, both over her weight and her drinking.

    My son in law isn’t obese, but last year his doctor still told him he needed to lose two stone to avoid health issues in the future. He wasn’t best pleased. <laugh>
     
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  9. DMD

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    For the advice and support they offer if they do raise the issue of weight, Doctors may as well advise people to get taller so that their BMI index fits.
     
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    So, your sister in law doesn't like being told that she needs to change her ways for her own sake?

    It seems some doctors and school officials tell youngsters who are not overweight that they are but seem reluctant to say anything to the really overweight ones as they are afraid of being accused of "fat shaming".
     
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  11. DMD

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    You're making assumptions, and generalisations, and grossly simplistic ones at that.

    Perhaps if there was a holistic look at this and other issues, such as why do you continue to engage in contact sports, or train without expert advice, or look at the underlying issues that could cause people to over eat, patients may be inclined to feel more supported and able to act, rather than have an overweight GP say 'lose weight, next'.
     
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    Shut down the London Underground to save the NHS? FFS you dozy twat.
     
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    'Personally checked'. Arf.
    Blimey, this thread is really veering into fantasy land tonight.
     
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  14. Gone For A Walk

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    I believe that nutrition education takes up a few hours of a doctor's 8 or so years of training. It's crazy. Not that it's all at the doctor's door, it clearly isn't. The shortcomings / failings / lip service are right through society.
     
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    No , I am not. I know a number of people who have been told their kid was overweight when to most people they are nothing of the sort. One was made to travel 20 miles for a counselling and advice session with her 5 year old daughter. When she got there the person asked who the hell had sent her as there was no problem.
     
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    In other words it differs from your leftie view of everything. Shouldn't be allowed.
     
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  17. DMD

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    Yup, ie spoke directly to those involved and in a position to know.

    You can choose to believe the sub editors version if you wish. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  18. Gone For A Walk

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    It would be wrong for me to go into detail, but I have had sufficient direct and indirect insight.
     
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    I wonder how many people sounding off tonight about fat people, have spent the last six months sounding off about cycle lanes being installed in Hull.
     
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    Are you using the cycle lanes daily, no matter the weather?
     
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