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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    It certainly explains it because having seen that Mourinho was worse than Poch, the number of candidates to replace Mourinho was very limited. We had to get rid of Mourinho before season end and had little option but to appoint a caretaker. Then Conte refused to join us and, again, a short term appointment was basically the only option. Levy seems to have trusted Paratici that Nuno could do it and they both acted swiftly when it became apparent that he couldn't. Although he had a tricky job with Kane effectively on strike.
     
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  2. PowerSpurs

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    On the first point, I've been on boards and people with Levy’s wealth would easily be persuaded that many staff would prefer furlough. For anyone well above average wage, getting 80% of your pay for doing nothing sounds like a brilliant outcome.
    On the second point it seems he was assured by Paratici that Nuno could do it. Having been a long standing advocate of DoF I am not going to criticise Levy for listening to him.
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    "Ended up with"...yes, after 2 years of atrocious football, worsening PL positions, dross signings and open mutiny in the stands...yes, we have 'ended up' with a world class manager.

    But the road it took to get us there was simply insane. Just like the road to a Universal Declaration of Human Rights was a world war, nuclear bombing and Holocaust.
     
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  4. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    My bad...obviously remembered it wrongly
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    Just checked and Spurs, Liverpool and the Woolwich left at 10.55pm on April 20th.
    Man Utd went into Fergie time and announced at 10.56pm. Typical.
    Chelsea technically left the next day, announcing it at 12.51am.
     
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  6. Alfie Conn

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    I agree with what you said about Conte , let's see where we go in the next two transfer windows , it's about time Enic showed how serious they are
     
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  7. Alfie Conn

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    They obviously did not consider the consequences or feelings of the fans , Levy and his like forget they are running first and foremost a football club not a business, results are what the fans want and a pride in the club , there are not many things in this life that go as deep as a persons love for their football club
     
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  8. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    How come we looked at double figures over a period of 10 weeks?
     
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    If you find what you're looking for, then you don't keep looking.
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    No, you let him walk out the door....keep looking....appoint a far worse option....sack the worse option....start looking again and....

    'Tis the Levy way.
     
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    Which manager was the one we should've kept in that scenario? Sounds like Mourinho, but...
     
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  12. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Conte.
     
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    In the summer? Conte didn't want to take it.
    "There was a call from Tottenham in the summer but I was very clear with them that because I just finished with Inter after two very important, tough seasons."
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    You believed that?

    It looks an awful lot like completely rewriting history to me to avoid going into how it got ****ed the first time.

    It's rather strange that nobody (including Conte himself) said that in the summer, don't you think?

     
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  15. remembercolinlee

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    These were people mainly on the London Living Wage. People like shop workers, catering staff, programme sellers, admin staff etc.

    Few, if any were over £30k a year.

    If was supposed to be for 3 months...so the club would have saved a total of £4.8m over the 3 months they were originally planning to use it (that's if all 550 earned £35,000 per year).

    Yet it would have cost each member of staff £1875 each.

    People were left with a 20% wage cut hanging over their heads for over 2 weeks during a pandemic while having to pay rent/mortgages, financially supporting their kids at college/universities coping with massive and unexpected price rises for food and bills. Its why mental health went down the ****ing toilet and domestic violence and suicides went through the roofs.
    I genuinely hope you don't take this as a personal insult but to dismiss all of the harm the club did to those staff by making their anxieties and worries greater for those two weeks was a ****ing disgrace.

    To say that staff would welcome that as a brilliant outcome is to belittle their experiences of Levy ignoring their needs to save our club just £4.5m.

    It was, is and will always be a shameful decision.

    You betray your generous and progressive views by downplaying the sheer cruelty of that decision.
     
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    I think that he was waiting for other clubs and they didn't come in for him.
     
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    I think that PS suggested as much by saying:
    "For anyone well above average wage, getting 80% of your pay for doing nothing sounds like a brilliant outcome."
    Anyone below that? Not so much.

    The club could've made it far more palatable for fans and staff by paying the difference.
    Wouldn't have been popular with everyone else, of course.
     
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  18. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Here's what Conte actually said...

    "Let me say that if my problem or my obsession were money, in the past I would have stayed where I was, I would have accepted compromises, and perhaps [accepted] renewals. But instead I look at the projects and I am willing to stay at home if they don’t convince me.

    In general, I like challenges and I have shown that I have always accepted a lot of them, because even the big clubs I had never started as favourites when I took them, but if there is something that does not convince me, I prefer to say “no thank you”.

    It's pretty clear.
     
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  19. remembercolinlee

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    I don't think PS realises how few staff earn above the LondonLiving Wage.
    The figures I used were based on staff earning £35k a year...the savings for the club in reality would have been much much lower...looked like the type of thing you'd expect from multi national businesses like Amazon or Starbucks.
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    Say it was half that. £2.4m for basically doing nothing probably seemed like a no-brainer.
    I doubt most club owners understood how badly it was going to be received.
     
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