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  1. Magdad

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    My issue with this argument is, the government spent millions on a vaccine, promoted it as only they could, for it to then be "oh you need 2 doses" to change to "oh you need a booster". They've just gone and handed Wee Jimmy Cranky and her ****ty Nazi party millions to close hospitality down. If you think England isn't getting a lockdown any tie soon your zipped up the back. I've had 3 jabs in 7 months - bit shot for a miracle cure. They opened these Nightingale hospitals, they never got close to being full. They closed them and all the bullshit starts again. How about spunking some money on the NHS and its staff rather than dipshit scientists and their "Theories". **** THE TORIES.
     
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  2. Prince Isak (GG)

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    The issue will be the data will never be conclusive. And we in modern times have never had to deal with something like this. So the past is more or less irrelevant.

    Let’s just say the virus was instantly deadly (I know it’s far fetched but if we are using the narrative as a reason for and against and choice is key it make the stakes higher) then people would instantly take the vaccines. In fact it would be pandemonium. And it could evolve one day to be much more deadly.

    People would also insist on restrictions for those who have chosen not to take it by not allowing them into the public domain. It would almost be the beginning of the end right.

    And that’s my issue here. The choice thing currently it can’t be proven either way if having the vac is safer for the population. But if more people where dying. Faster. Those people who “choose” would start reconsidering.
     
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    I agree. Almost entirely. Apart from the last part about **** the tories. Does anyone think it’s irrelevant what party is in charge of this.

    Would the others have done any better?
    Surely the decisions would or should be voted on?
    Last time I checked we are (I know I’m gonna) a democratic country.

    I have no doubt that any party would have made similar choices and made similar mistakes.
     
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  4. Magdad

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    I would have expected similar mistakes mate, however I would expect less sleaze to be involved. I would also expect them to learn from the previous mistakes and for them to clean their own house properly, regardless of which party was in place. I would also expect them to be upfront about plans rather than preparing a lockdown behind closed doors whilst knowing full well they plan to close hospitality sector down again within days. There is no way the goverment have thrown money at the devolved parliaments to do this if they weren't away to do this themselves. Why don't they just admit it?

    I would expect them to, by now at least, say to people "this is here to stay, you go out at and do your own thing at your own risk" like they do with smoking, drinking, etc.

    I would also love to know what would have happened had this virus been developed and escaped from a smaller military power than China. Let's say this had escaped from a country like Mexico? Do we think the rest of the world would have just accepted it they way they have with China? I don't. I reckon they'd be forced to pay reparations.
     
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    I would expect every single other party to have done better. I would expect every other single party would not have handed out billion pounds contacts to their mates or people who they owed favours to.
     
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    I understand what your saying but it’s always easier to point the finger and say those things and that “others” would do better when there is no proof they would have.

    Fir the record I have no party preference whatsoever. I think they are all corrupt bastards and I would like someone to point (in real life) me in the direction of a political person who isn’t just in it for themselves.<laugh>

    Have they made mistakes. Yes. Some horrific ones and Boris is in danger of becoming the most hated man in England. But this was unprecedented and we have nothing to compare it too.
     
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  7. Magdad

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    The one I still laugh my tits off at is that really **** Paper Mash programme they had parents use for home schooling. Its was soooo ****ing bad man. Anyone with the slightest clue of how to programme could have come up with something better in a day or 2 than that ****e. They must have been paid a fortune for it n all.
     
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    That’s been happening since the beginning of time. All politicians are crooks and spin doctors. And I don’t know if other parties would have done any better. Because there isn’t a good party out there.
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    No idea what this paper mash program you're on about?
     
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    I agree there aren't any other policy based parties that are any good.

    But could you really see other leaders lying their tits off or giving Dido Harding £44 billion? Come on now. There is corruption and then there are these corrupt ****s
     
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    It was one of the programmes parents logged on for the home learning (primary school) last year. Teachers could set tasks and parents would then get the kids to do the work. However it was so bad that, say there was a task where the kids were expected to drag and drop a picture of an animal onto the related word, you'd then have to re-size the bloody picture manually rather than it auto fitting, just full of ****ty bugs like that.
     
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  12. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Ah. That's your kids primary school then. My children's school used Google classroom. I used zoom first time around and second time around we moved on to Microsoft teams
     
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    Agreed. And that needs investigation but I don’t see that as a party issue but more of an individual one. That’s just greed. That’s just personal gain. It’s not a party problem unless it’s been acknowledged and nothing is done about it. (I’ve left that open for rebait).

    I just believe that the government have made mistakes collectively. Look at recent votes. 100’s of tories voted against and 100’s of Labour Party members for.

    It’s all completely borked.
     
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    Was that a government led programme though or was it just the schools bad choice of what software to use?
     
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    @Darren Peacock's Ponytail
     
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    It is and I blame the voters. People voting Tory because they always do. People voting Labour because they always do. And so on. I've spoiled my ballot last 3 general elections. Need to scrap house of lords and replace with a new house of independent people. We need to have ministers who are to of their game eg a head teacher responsible for education and not some career corrupt money grabbing ****
     
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    Not government
     
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    What is a big waste of money is the catch up plan. My school, for example, is paying a maths teacher/tutor same as they are paying me to have small groups (3 kids). Guess what they are covering? That's right, the exact same content as their teacher is teaching that lesson. What's worse they use the materials that teacher has prepared. What would have been better is if this extra teacher took a class this reducing class sizes and everyone benefits
     
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    I wouldn't even say the school are to blame for their choice. They will have been backed in to a corner with no time to look and compare and probably took the cheapest option due to no funding.

    Look up the **** SIMS new owners are causing schools. Bent ****s
     
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  20. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Agreed. And it’s a sad sorry state I’m afraid: I did a project recently where I went back over the last 8 years and the ratio of income increases (available to spend) compared to the increase in salary alone meant that 8% of staff had to be lost. Purely on unmatched rises.
     
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