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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan Forum Moderator

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    They are supporting it, man :emoticon-0105-wink: . . . . like they should have done right at the start, nearly two years ago <doh>

    Anyway . . . .
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  7. polyphemus

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    My vote for Boris was based on a single issue, and I am and was, well aware that this is a risky strategy.
    But he kept to his promise and we were out of Europe.
    A huge plus in MY opinion.

    The virus caught every country in the World by surprise.
    There were no plans in place to combat such an event.
    Worldwide it was completely unforseen.

    In these circumstances, without being brilliant at much, The Government has done fairly well.
    The utter, incompetent mess that was made with PPE, can be balanced by the excellant job that was made in vaccination programmes.

    But Boris is a Clown and is way past his sell by date.

    The problem is, who in The Tory Party is there to replace him?

    The historical option, (should that be hysterical?), is to go for a Senior Minister. One who holds, or has hel, one of the 'Great Offices of State'.

    Rishi Sunak - Possible, but he is doing a fair job and it might be just a touch early in his career for the jump to PM.

    Liz Truss - Say Cheese and pass on.

    Priti Patel - Too combative, lacks tact. Positives for me, but for few others.

    Sajid Javid - Former Chancellor who fell out with Doninic Cousins and resigned on pricipal rather than concede to Mr C. Showed good judgement and principles on that one.

    From the rest I can only think of Nadhim Zahawi or Kwasi Kwarteng as looking remotly as if they could fill the job.

    And it's odd that apart from the Cheese saleslady, the rest of the list is made up of people with Black or Asian heritage.
    If nothing else this tell me that Inegration Policies are working to some degree.

    And it time that The Tory Party ditched the Eton Old Boys Club for a while and just for the novelty tried to select on ability.
    (Keep in mind though that the last time this was tried, we got Maggie):emoticon-0102-bigsm

    My point in this overlong preamble is to ask --

    WHO WOULD YOU LIKE THE TORY PARTY TO ELECT TO REPLASCE BORIS.????
     
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  8. rb92

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    I’ve always said I’ll never vote Labour but if there was an election tomorrow I’d vote for them in a heartbeat if it got rid of this government which must now be the worst in British history.
     
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  9. polyphemus

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    Compare the boorish Boris to Tony Blair with his PR Guru, Alistair Campbell, and their 'Dodgy Dossier'.
    A fictitous case made out to justify going to war.
    Even if you ignore the number of British Dead, cosider the dead from Iraq, Afganistan, then tie into that the rise of Islamic State and all their destruction.
    Tony MAY have meant well, but the truth is that he was wrong about his basic premise, that Sadam had Weapons of Mass Destruction.
    His evidence was cooked up.
    And all the horrors in the Middle East have stemmed from that.

    My point is that incompetance in Politicians is not the sole preserve of any particular Party.
    It belongs to them all.
    To follow any particular Political Party, blindly, with a 'My Party (or Country) Right OR Wrong' only means that at times you end up supporting people like Blair or Boris.
     
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    Can't abide Labour, but Boris has to go. As to who replaces him, as long as it's not Raab or Patel I don't think there's much to choose. They're all ****e apart from Sunak and he may not want the job.
     
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    Jacob Rees-Mogg
     
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  12. Gordon Armstrong

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    But surely POLY this is EXACTLY what he is saying. He isprepared to vote out incompetance - even though it goes against the (his) grain.
     
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    The Tory fan boys mantra originally was that we couldn't elect Labour as they were incompetent. This then morphed into "it would have been worse under Jeremy Corbyn" when the first cracks started to appear under this government. As it got worse and worse it is now "well they are all the same". Incredible.
     
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    The point I was TRYING to chalenge was the 'worst in Btitish History', assertion.

    I quoted the Blair example just to underline that incompetance is rife in ALL political parties.
    I could have looked for other examples, but this one provided balance to the topic.

    I'm unable to speak abut the 'Tory Fan Boys' not quite understanding the term, but I get very nrevous about extremists in the political sense,

    And it matters not one jot if these extremist are Right or Left, I want nothing at all to do with either.
    However, I confess, AGAIN, to voting for the unreliable Boris, last time out, solely because I believed he would arrange our escape from The EU.
     
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    Proportional representation
     
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  18. Pure River Slut

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    The choice isn’t Blair or Johnson. Blair is long gone, so is Corbyn and it’s not just between two parties. The Lib Dems won yesterday for example. Boris was a bad choice and voting on a single issue is limiting.
     
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    100%.
     
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    I know you are talking to someone I have on ignore but Blair was last Labour leader 14 years ago. Jeremy Corbyn went nearly 2 years ago. The Tories have been in power for nearly 12 years and this particular Tory government had a massive majority at the last election. All the shenanigans going on are a classic example of power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bonko and his cronies think they are untouchable and can do whatever they like. Arrogance in the extreme. And yes, you cannot elect a government on a single issue. When you vote for a clown, don't be surprised when a circus follows behind him <laugh>
     
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