They have the Jamu Lady who comes round on her bike here every morning with a whole load of bottles of health medicines (sort of the Indonesian Piskie) Lots of the Indonesians, particularly the older women and the maids, stop her for a glass. She has a different herbal remedy for any ailment. Even has one for if you are having trouble performing in the bedroom. I had a spell of high blood pressure and doctor in the UK reckoned I should go on medication. Mrs told me to drink Starfruit Juice every morning - blood pressure quickly lowered. Turns out the chemical they use in blood pressure medication occurs naturally in Starfruit. Also add Brown (Andean) Maca Powder to my morning fruit juice concoction. Amazing how much energy you feel - meant to boost testosterone levels and they also recommend it for women going through menopause as it can reduce the effects. If you are really keen, they have restaurants and roadside stalls here where you can drink snake (cobra or python) bile. They kill the snake in front of you, drain it and serve it in a glass. Rest of the snake is then served up as the longest sub-sandwich in the world or as Sate. Meant to be very good for virility but also thought to aid your immune system. Its a wonder they aren't recommending this instead of the latest COVID booster. @luvgonzo - if your Mrs would like to try this, let me know and I can send you a cobra by DHL.
hope the Mrs is back on the mend soon. as natural remedies go, I take a turmeric thing for joints, help the knees and mean I avoid anti inflammatory drugs as they has nasty side effects. Would avoid the false hope/snake oil salesmen. Saw a lot when I first looked into renal failure and can easily suck you in with false hope My Gran and Dad were pushed by my Grandad to take some weird herbal drink he believed would help cure cancer when they were diagnosed, unfortunately, that never worked. lots of drugs we take today from the pharmaceutical industry are plant derived(about half in the last 30-40 years) - asprin being the main one in general use.
You just offer to DHL a Cobra? Can Anyone get Suckys details to you.....I would love to send him a secret Santa/spitting cobra
Talking of alternative healing... It's actually been scientifically proven than prayer does aid recovery times. But only if the person being prayed for knows they're being prayed for. In fact, telling someone people are praying for them, even if no one is, has shown a decrease in recovery times. So always tell sick people you're praying for them, even if you're an atheist, you're helping them out. Oh, tell your wife I'm praying for her Luv!
That actually really interesting. I never knew that had been shown to be a thing, have you got a link? as I’d be genuinely interested to read it.
I will see if I can find a link somewhere, the study was at least five years ago. Also heard it on No Such Thing As A Fish or Weirdest Thing I Learnt this week (one of those two podcasts) covered it too.
I believe this is the same mechanism that works for collective meditation. It’s often dismissed as placebo, but people have been practising it for thousands of years.
Indeed. That was my assumption for the results too. I just did some brief google-fu and wasn't able to find the study I initially mentioned in my brief searching. I did find this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802370/ The paper refers to three previous studies. One where women having a hard time getting pregnant were prayed or not prayed for. The prayed for women got pregnant at a much higher rate. A second study it mentions is for cardiac surgery where those who were prayed for got sicker and had more complications... And those that were prayed for and told they were prayed for did worst overall... ( just realised my laugh there is inappropriate) A third study showed people with blood Infections where those prayed for healed faster than those not prayed for. So, the various studies (and I saw even more online) all contradict even though some have large sample sizes and supposedly the results are statistically significant in many. Despite all these studies contradicting it doesn't mean any are "incorrect" prayer does lower natural cortisol, as does being prayed for, or any form of meditation.... Perhaps in some scenarios that is a good thing and in some it isn't... Stress may sometimes help is heal and sometimes harm us. Dunno.
I think the evidence for mediation/prayer/contemplation or whatever cultural name it’s given, is clear in how it works for the individual or group practicing it, by lowering cortisol, blood pressure, heart rate etc which in turn can lower inflammatory conditions and stress related illness. I’d be really interested to understand the mechanism for how this works remotely though. Ie how praying for somebody else can have a tangible effect on them.
I think it's clear that a lot of these methods simply relax the person and that removal of stress has a positive effect. The woman Mrs luv has been seeing gave some sound advice about diet and the sound therapy was relaxing so worth while. The problem is that deep down this woman clearly had some mental health issues and Mrs luv won't be going back because of that. I mentioned the dragon fly thing in the op, her latest was to tell Mrs luv she's blocking spirits and that she should let them in as she's got a gift where she can speak with the dead. From eating lentils to chatting with the late aunt Margaret all in 1 hour. We'll take some of the good advice though and maybe look at acupuncture next.
Mrs Luv weighing up whether to buy a Ouija board or just book a session at the local natural health clinic
Bit of a complete tangent... But I always found it fascinating that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle believed in all that ouija stuff. He created the logical detective but he, himself, believed in all sorts of weird spiritualism, hoo-doo, and regularly attended séances and stuff. Even requested that a séance be held with him after he died and there was a large public one held "with him" in Albert Hall after he died.. He also believed Houdini had magical powers and when Houdini tried to prove it was all trickery Doyle refused to believe him.
