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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    or by poor experts who instil head shaking and lack of confidence...
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Deaths have dropped by almost 90% since their January peak, thanks to the vaccine, so it's quite obviously not ****.

    There's still 900 dying every week in the UK, so it's not just a mild virus, though if they were all vaccinated, that number would be tiny.
     
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  4. TwoWrights

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    In fairness 900 are dying every week after having a positive test in the last 28 days, actual cause of death is another matter.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    There's only a 10% difference between the weekly announced deaths and those that end up confirmed as having COVUD as the cause of death.
     
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  6. TwoWrights

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    It's still a conspiracy geeks ****fest.
     
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  7. brownbagtiger

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    Only for the hard of thinking. I think I mentioned this up thread - it's standard medical safety reporting to report all possible factors, however unrelated or unlikely they may seem at first.

    The example being if you were taking part in a clinical trial for a new hay fever medicine, and you fell off your bike and broke your leg, that would be recorded in the clinical trial data as an adverse event. On the face of it you might think it had no relevance, but the data is gathered so that it can be analysed for anomalies such as drug causing more incidents of people losing their balance, or breaking bones. Same principle applies to COVID - you might think it's irrelevant if someone had a positive COVID test and died in a car accident, or of a heart attack, or a pre-existing terminal illness. But that data will be recorded and analysed to determine whether the presence of COVID altered the statistical likelihood of these events. The line has been drawn at 28 days because it has to be drawn somewhere.

    People who look for conspiracy everywhere just can't cope with the fact that the world is a complex and messy place.
     
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  8. TwoWrights

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    Plenty of them about.
     
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  9. brownbagtiger

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    Aye, and their votes count the same as yours and mine. Scary.
     
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  10. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    we all have our own opinions on this - I don’t view any vaccine where you can still catch & spread it as effective.
    It’s better than nothing, but it’s not great, let’s not pretend it is
     
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    I'll stick with MHRA's opinion thanks (and EMA and FDA and WHO)
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    In the main, it stops you from getting very ill or dying, I'd call that effective.

    I'm not pretending anything, I think it's been fantastic and the only downside, is that too many people won't have it.
     
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  13. Newlandcasual2

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    They may just have noticed the amount of fellow players dropping to the ground with chest/heart issues lately and think no that's not for me, can't blame them really.
     
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  14. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    Stick with whatever you want pal….

    Here was me thinking a vaccine STOPs infection, I’m off to the chemist to get a measles test. I only had one jab 40 years ago, I must be due a booster….
     
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    On more important news… gutted! Feels like march 2020 again 99E48C6A-560C-4C2E-A8F0-9DA7E2EC820B.jpeg
     
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    That's a perfect example - so many of us got the jab when we were babies that there is true herd immunity in most areas of the country and there is enough protection to ensure no community transmission should a case occur.

    In areas where Wakefield's insidious lies about MMR caused babies not to be vaccinated, and rates dropped to below 75%, there have been breakouts of measles because there was not enough people vaccinated to prevent community transmission, even in some cases where patients had been vaccinated.

    It's how vaccinations work - for very infectious diseases stopping community transmission is more important than individual protection, because once you achieve that EVERYONE is protected, even those that can't have the vaccine for medical reasons.
     
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    'Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that it is Covid-related or, even worse, that vaccine-related myocarditis may be responsible for this spate of cardiac issues that we are seeing in football players.

    'I can tell you now that Eriksen's arrest was nothing to do with Covid or the vaccine, nor was Aguero's cardiac scare, nor were Fleck's problems or Wyke's.

    Professor Sanjay Sharma, the UK's leading sports cardiologist.
     
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    As you’re talking about elite athletes you can add me to the non-covid related arrests & scares list.
     
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    17th ones a charm
     
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    As it stands, one variant may get you very very poorly.... the other seemingly doesn't and may ultimately prove to be a blessing.
     
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