You were discussing the efficacy of vaccines and boosters. The increased push for booster roll-outs is motivated by the rapid spread of a variant considered mild by the medical professionals who identified it. The two are linked. What is the justification for perfectly-healthy double-jabbed people rushing to get a third jab because of a mild variant, when it’s to the detriment of other NHS services that have now been postponed? Does a person in their 20s or 30s with no underlying health conditions need a booster within the next 3 weeks if it means other treatments are postponed?
Because this time round, the issue isn't a high % of people needing hospital treatment and the mortality rate. It is the sheer numbers of people being sick, all at the same time. Maybe sick for a week at home and they'll be right as rain afterwards, but FFS if footie matches are being cancelled because the clubs can't field enough well players, will hospitals have enough well staff for wards to stay open? Lorry drivers to deliver petrol? Shelf stackers in shops? AND, even if Omicron is relatively mild, with a lower % of people needing hospitalisation, a lower %age of a big number is still a lot of patients needing treatment - in hospitals with no staff because they're all at home unwell. So I can understand why Whitty et al are concerned because we could be in for a very sticky month or so if the numbers of people unwell keep shooting up at the rate they are doing.
Yeah, would be bad if the NHS lost a chunk of its staff for a week due to illness. Can you imagine how bad it could get if say, nearly 100,000 NHS staff left? Oh wait…
I'm glad you agree - because those staff at home in bed wouldn't be able to facilitate the treatment for anyone for any illness or condition, covid or non-coved related.
Agree. But SW3 said having the jabs mean there would be no consequences from attending parties.,That is not correct. You could still get it or pass it on. Of course the more people who end up in hospital because not having the jab means they are more seriously affected than they would have been if they had also means beds are taken up, diagnosis and treatment are delayed.
The read they’re pushing this mild variant is to deflect from all the BULLSHIT the media are dragging up from last year, guess what, it’s working!
Cute how you skipped over the second part of my post. Do you agree with sacking nearly 100,000 NHS staff come April, not for a week or a month, but for the foreseeable future without fully-trained personnel to replace them?
So, that us why France is bringing in more draconian restrictions than we are, Norway has said bars and restaurants can't serve alcohol for a month, though they can remain open (a strange decision to put it mildly). They are doing it to deflect attention away from what happened in the UK last year?
Because the Omicron issue is now not next April, and it's not 100,000 staff. irrelevant to the issue at hand
It’s a fairly **** vaccine then. So do we have to hide away forever in fear of potentially catching a mild virus? At what stage do we get on with living our lives to the full??
It strikes me that a fair amount of the disharmony sits squarely at the feet of the media, who seem fully engaged in creating chaos and confusion. This isn't helped by the conflicting and confusing information presented poorly by the experts.
We have several vaccines, all of them far better than the original specification of 50% effectiveness that we'd have accepted at the start of this thing. They're all bloody brilliant examples of modern medicine. But what we also have is about 5 million adults in the UK who have still not had any vaccine whatsoever, mostly of working age. Plus children under the age of 12. That's a lot of people to get sick all at once and/or walk around spreading the disease. Plus, vaccinations do not guarantee you won't get sick or pass it on, they just massively reduce the chance and/or severity of the disease. To get this thing to stop we have to get 95% of the total population vaccinated to stop community transmission.
