Classic example. 1970/71 with our famous five forward line still intact. ( well, four of them plus Terry Neill) Every tie at home from Rd 3 to the Quarter Finals. Two nil up at home in the 1st half of that quarter final and we still didn't make the semi's. Yeah, we've had loads of favourable draws in the FA Cup alright.
Unfortunately, all too typical. In other cities they seem to identify with the local football club, even if they don't go to games, and rejoice in any success the local club has as it brings a boost to the city. In Hull far too many seem to get pleasure from seeing the local club fail. Back in the 1960s when Leeds first started doing well my uncle who was friends with Harry Reynolds, chairman of Leeds United, and director Cousins and Silver (they used to play golf together along with Revie) used to go to European matches on the team plane. Not many went to far flung games as it was an expensive business, and especially difficult to the Communist ones. But he said on every plane trip there was a Councillor and a member of the Chamber Of Commerce. 5hey weren't there for a freebie, they were taking advantage of people being aware of Leeds for the first time and negotiating for business and people investing in the city. What did we get? We were City .of Culture at a time when we were the only Yorkshire club in the Premier League and Geraghty said if would give visitors a chance to see what a great sporting city we were, not only did we love our rugby league but we also loved our darts and wrestling. He then went on to say it would give chance for visitors to see what Hull was doing to rebuild the war damage the city suffered. You just had to hope no one from Warsaw, Hamburg, Cologne, the former Leningrad, Stalingrad and a host of other places was reading that. Yet these people continue to be voted in.
And what attitude is that? My opinion that the respective team selection for a cup game will have prospective owners running for the hills? You are daft.
The one thing that struck me about your post,reasonable post that it was. 1954!!! That's a long time,doffs cap in respect
Which was my point. This rugby city stuff is bollocks. Used to be the largest FA District, largest Sunday League, dozens of local football clubs for every RL one, same with junior teams. Packed pubs for England internationals. Unfortunately that doesn't generate into support for city. Legions of Hull Reds and Hull ****es who get more passionate about their adopted club than most City fans do about theirs. The local media don't help. I think they indulge in brainwashing new recruits. I remember one saying on Sportstalk that since arriving in Hull he had realised this will always be a rugby city as long as the first thing kids do as soon as they can walk is pick up a rugby ball. FFS!
I don’t think I saw a rugby ball in real life until I was about 10. No one at school even talked about it. Everyone was a Utd or Liverpool fan though.
I haven't - I've been to a few away games but the loss of concessions to kids was the straw that broke the camels back for me, I was on the first short protest March before the Norwich game but I still kept going. When they reintroduced concessions I could have come back but really can't be arsed, the few guys I used to meet up with have drifted away and haven't returned, the whole game has lost its sparkle for me and I really can't be arsed to go on my own. Fair play to those who stuck with it though.
Moral dilemma? The decision to go or not was an individual choice, never questioned by me. I’ve been in the stadium twice since we beat Sheff Weds at Wembley, One game in the PL, one in the Championship. My post wasn’t what you’re trying to make it to be, but you know that. It was a simple question to somebody who suggested “we fans” should get beyond telling them ****s to **** off. He is afterall the one who said “ you’re either a supporter ot you’re not”. Obviously the ones priced out & left to do something else, or die are, in his eyes, not, A simple consideration to your fellow supporters who were priced out by this couple of scum ****s would suffice. Personally I’ll always be at ease referring to them as ****s & hoping they **** off.
During the Pearson era I recall Humberside and the HDM to a lesser degree giving us very favourable publicism and coverage, same with the Duffen era, and at the start of the Allam era too, alas with them spitting their dummies out and being p1ss poor with media,that has warned to the degree that why should they give headlines to the club who make it almost impossible for them to access the club. It needs a healthy dose of Ilaci and his team to get back on track but given his background I susoect there'll be plenty of co erage when he takes o er,I just hope they keep that irritating twat Gollum Lloyd well away from us.[/QUOTE]
With prices as they currently are it's difficult to continue making the 'priced out' argument. They appear to have seen the error of their ways on that front - albeit belatedly.
You a little dumb? There were hundreds priced out who have not returned because the family’s found something else to do. Probably with a business that values their custom. Oh & the dead ones, who were priced out & never got to return, should we dig them up?
Having lived in Sunderland for nearly 10 years at the time they won the FA cup in1973 as a second division team, I can agree with the tremendous support they got then and still do. Though you did see kids wearing Chelsea, Leeds even Southampton shirts! The supporters of Hull City have had their moments though. Anyone who was at the Battle of Bramhall lane in March 1971, like me saw what support is possible in this City a huge attendance at what was then a three sided ground. City on the cusp of making it to the 1st Division. Alas once again we didn’t quite make it. Let’s not forget the Play Off final in 2008, that game was a record attendance for a play off at Wembley. A sea of Black and Amber on Wembley Way, the celebrations after the game I will always remember and made me very proud to support Hull City. Rugby in this city with two so called Super league teams has been an attraction for some but neither could compete with the attendances a Hull City team had over the 5 seasons in the Premier League. Let’s hope better times can be ahead with new owners and the supporters who have drifted away because of the actions of the current owners. Will return!
I genuinely wasn't trying to make your post out as anything that you seem to be trying to fabricate it into.I was asking an honest,straightforward question as to just how deep your moral fibre stretched in support of people who you claim were wronged?
It seems you're the dumb one. I never claimed that concessions debacle never alienated the support, just that it's been rectified and are now very reasonable. Indeed.
Like I said. 2 games. Both had better reasons for going than staying away. I do away games that are pay on the gate. It’s not a moral dilemma. It’s a choice.
[/QUOTE] Yes, but for years previously they had indulged in accentuating the positive for RL and accentuating the negative for City. Reporting on trouble at City whilst ignoring it at rugby, constant references to the "last one out turn off the lights" bollocks (no mention of the fact FC only averaged 12,000 that season and Rovers 8,000). Of course they hopped on the bandwagon at every opportunity, such as their patronising "Thrilla At The Villa" treating City as a small club who had got some sort of dream tie. That fat twat Stonehouse describing wide eyed boys on the buses waiting to set off on the trip of a lifetime. It was like the paper of a small town in the non league whose club had drawn a top flight club. Trip of a lifetime? Some of had experience a few lifetimes then, rattling about in Villa Park with only 10,000 there.
And an equal amount of fair play to those who have stood by their principals and stuck two fingers up at the Club...I get that. But,genuinely and I firmly believe this!!! Some just ****ed off because we weren't playing a decent level of Football and were no longer in the top flight.
Rubbish. You said “It’s difficult to keep using the priced out argument” It isn’t because people were priced out. Many of those, parents with children, who will forever be correct in using the “priced out” argument. Many more are now dead, their families will forever be entitled to use the “priced out” argument. The priced out argument will always be valid because its a FACTAFUCKINGMONDO. You’re head’s that far up Allam’s arse you can almost see Urika’s feet.
So who is priced out currently? It's an argument to be made before the current pricing structure. Not going forward. I accept that some who were lost won't come back, but others will with a change in ownership and direction. ... And I'm no where near Allams arse, want them gone yesterday, just I'm not behaving like a redneck who hasn't been to a good lynching for a while. Shame you don't seem to have the ability to process nuance in an argument.
