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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 14th December)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Dec 14, 2021.

  1. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    If you took the idea that membership guaranteed you 3 number of games per season, then they could easily say, that allows you one game each for category A,B and C games, thus reducing the gambling aspect again. There would be nothing to stop you from applying for further games, just that those who have membership that have not attended a match of whatever category, would have priority over your own application.

    Obviously the combination comes down to how many tickets are allocated to members for a match and how many members there are in total, but even with 50,000 members and a maximum of only 10,000 seats available per game, 80% of the membership would be guaranteed 4 home games per season
     
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  2. Doc

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    Heres a serious issue I never thought would crop ui football:

    Aston Villa are seriously thinking about having 2 classes of footballer! They are not going to sign any player in January that hasnt been jabbed! This will have serious implications for the players union and UK employment Law. Its taken an act of Parliament to insist that care workers are jabbed and from April all NHS staff will also need to be jabbed. There are lots of implications including human rights act and any number of civil liberties laws as it hasnt been passed into law for footballers, so breaking the law. Yes a moral question and a health problem, but Villa doing this off their own bat will bring trouble.

    i assumed that all players had been jabbed, but then find out there are quite a lot who refused to be jabbed. There are players who have contracted covid and still out ill and there are other players who say they have had covid so therefore are more protected than players who have had the jab?

    We also know there are players collapsing in training and in matches for no apparent reason and even a Man Utd player was taken off as he couldn't breathe the other night. 2 instances of heart attacks in football in 20 years yet this year alone there have been well over 30 instances of players having unexplained heart attacks. Even today its being announced that Aguero is having to retire, so maybe this is another reason some players are refusing the jab
     
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  3. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    So how could you apply for further games if only allowed one A.. B.. C and a possible you say 4th. The algorithm would not let you log in would it.
     
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    Ok so the man utd player got a dig in the ribs so had a tight chest.
    So you say players just collapse for no reason. Players collapse all the time but because of the covid vaccine every little case is dragged up and included. I would love to see every doctors report on these so called heart attacks.
    There are a damn sight more cases where sportsmen collapse. Fitness levels are pushed higher and people collapse.
    What the conspiracy theorists fail to do is provide proof of any credibility. A snippet here and half a story there and there you have it conclusive proof. Then plaster it all over click bait sites. Another player trips over a blade of grass and it's a heart attack.
     
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  5. hemase

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    There is a strong case of baader-meinhof phenomenon going on with this and it is falling into the conspiracy theorists hands.

    Baader-meinhof is also known as frequency illusion. You notice something for the first time then there is a tendency to notice it more often making you believe it is moret common then it is.

    There has been more notice being taken of fans taking ill in the stands this season.

    I would say that fans taking ill has been going on forever. The amount of people at games, the various ages and fitness levels mixed with alcohol and adrenaline.

    The big difference is since the Ericson incident at the euros everything now stops. My experience would say that before this season when a fan was taken ill the group of fans around them and the stewards would be the only ones to notice. The match would continue and everyone else would carry on watching.

    Because this has now changed people suddenly believe it to be a new thing happening and again this plays into the conspiracy theorists hands.
     
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    And the difference is???
     
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  7. Aski

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    Who says the algorithm wouldn't let you log in ?

    I never said you could only attend one of each of those categories, I said you were guaranteed a minimum of one each.

    There should be no reason that you couldn't apply for every home game that you wish to attend, all the algorithm does is give those who haven't attended the minimum allowed, priority over those members who have attended the specified number of games.

    As an example, let's say that me and you are the only two members, but there is only one seat available for members.

    The club therefore say that that we will be able to attend 9 home games each.

    We both attend 8 games each, so there are 3 games left for the season.

    For whatever reason I don't make an application to attend those last 3 games, thus your application is successful every time. I get to see 8 games, you get to see 11

    However say that again you apply to attend the last 3 games, and I don't make an application for the first of those two, so you are again successful for the first two. I do however also apply for the final home game. The algorithm looks at both our applications and says "oh Wakey has attended 10 games, but Aski has only attended 8 this season", so my application will be successful for the last game, and you will miss out.

    The only issue is that you don't find out when you apply, if you are going to be successful or not. There will have to be a time limit on applications, and after that a further time limit for successful applicant's to purchase their ticket.

    So with the last game of the season, I have been successful, because you have already attended 10 home games to my 8 games. However let's say 48 hours after being informed that I have been successful, I still haven't paid for my ticket, then the ticket is once again offered the the highest priority non successful applicant, being yourself. If you then don't purchase the ticket within the next 48 hours, then the ticket goes on general sale.

    Further example, you apply for all 19 home games. Circumstances mean that I don't put an application in until the final home game of the season. You get to attend 18 games, but miss out on the last home game, because my application take priority over yours
     
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    The sweets:grin:
     
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    Aha so you are suggesting that we should change our home kit to being all black ;)
     
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    <laugh> you said that not me:grin:
     
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  12. Aski

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    Not at all, I am just asking if that is your suggestion:emoticon-0136-giggl so that I am totally informed about your idea, and thus can then make a decision about whether I am in favour of your suggestion or not :emoticon-0141-whew:
     
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  13. Irishshako

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    I am making no such suggestion<laugh>
     
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  14. Irishshako

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    Stephen Warnock was on Sky the other day and he thought it was a soft home town decision and that although it was silly of Kilch, it wasn't a peno and the way the 6 foot plus lad went down was a joke. He also said if the same thing had happened at the other end there is no way it would have been given.<ok>
     
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    And he is correct
     
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  16. Aski

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    From my days when I use to ref, the challenge from Klich is one of those that as a ref I hated, because it was one where you had to make a judgment call, plus you know that whatever decision you make, you will be surrounded by one team or another disputing the decision.

    Taking the challenge as a totally isolated incident, if that had been outside the box, I would have blown for a foul, thus there should be no reason not to give a penalty, no matter how soft it appears. Even from a biased perspective I would struggle not to give that decision and if I had been the ref in that game ( with everyone knowing that I am a Leeds supporter) I would have been cursing under my breath, for being forced to make a decision that I don't want to make.
     
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  17. Irishshako

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    So you're the ****er dressed in black.<whistle>
     
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    Aski Well-Known Member

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    I was a multiculturual ref, I was the ****er dressed in a variety of colours ;)
     
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  19. Irishshako

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    <laugh> Can I ask you Aski, in what year or years were you a ref. I ask because in times gone by a tackle or challenge like that wouldn't have been a foul.<ok>
     
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  20. 2 pennth

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    Just doing my usual
    I’m angry, very angry
    We play 18th Dec
    26th Dec 8 day gap
    28th Dec 2day gap
    2nd Jan 4 Day gap
    Yes the same for all
    But now tell me it’s not all about money
    That includes the FA ,Club owners, Tv companies the lot they couldn’t give a fcuk about anything except money money money
    Don’t footballers get to have a family life anymore
    The whole thing stink’s
     
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