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  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Whoever those some people are need a less in cause and effect.

    The player was already in the air before the contact, so unless the earth was suddenly moving the opposite way in time it wasn't a penalty
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    No reason for it was there. No one around him. Lascelles was obviously the imbecile he is for sticking his leg out, but he withdrew it a little, but Maddison saw his chance timed his fall very well and made sure there was contact too. As I've said elsewhere, we were just victims of the modern way. The VAR guys were never gonna have the bottle, and just hid behind "its got to be a clear and obvious error". Well it was to me.
     
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    I suspect he was also hoping it was Lewis who was on a yellow.
    He's a diving **** much like sterling goes down every tine he releases the ball just in case
     
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    He cheated and dived. It’s happening more and more. It is ruining football.

    I don’t blame Lascelles for the foul because it wasn’t one. But he ****ed up initially trying to play out.

    Cheating is cheating isn’t it. End of the day Maddison cheated.
     
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    Spot on
     
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    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Essentially Maddison likes to try risky passes and he's good it, but he also goes down just in case he gets it wrong and an opposition player nicks it

    They all do it but our players aye just useless at that too.

    Max can't dive to save his life be should be winning more freekick and pens but he's too focused on scoring amazing goals
     
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    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    And did a very good job of it too. When you watch it full pace which is when the ref/lino make the decision, you have to say its pretty masterful from Maddison, he has clearly done it plenty to get it timed so well. That's the disappointing thing about VAR, because when its played back slowly its very clear he has deceived the ref. But the VAR people think "hmm its borderline, lets take the easy way out and say not enough evidence to change the decision". Bit of a cop out for me.
     
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    Yes agreed. But retrospectively it can be punished.

    Here’s a point. It’s always FOR the bigger teams. Never against. Funny that eh. Does that mean they have better simulation players.

    Or does it mean that bigger teams get the big calls.

    They where discussing it on talkshite. And basically they where saying well they (the dodgy decisions) where all 50:50 but interesting that they all went the way of Liverpool Man City Man Utd and Chelsea.

    Interesting eh!
     
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    Sorry like, I seemed to have missed all of those :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    Exactly he's always trying to score them and rarely does. Sometimes he just needs to hit the ball low and hard but he's always looking to show off a bit too much..

    I love max tbh but he's pissing me off atm...
     
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    THIS 100%. Also if he lifted his head and played the ball back to Lewis who is 10 foot behind him and unmarked it gives us the chance to either get a cross in unmarked or allow ASM to move into space to receive the ball again but he is constantly taking on 3,4 and 5 players and running the ****ing ball out of play.
     
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    I said months ago he’s like HBA but not as good.

    He’s a luxury player and not suited for most premier league teams.

    Football has become to organised and tactical for these types of players.

    In the so called top six teams how many of them have players who try to take on 2/3 players.

    It’s all about pass and move and triangles.
     
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    I think he's still a very good player but the other managers and payers know him now and he gets so many on him with so little time and not many nufc playets around him.

    I firmly believe once he's got more good players playing with him he'll shine, so I'm not going to be overly critical until then.

    He's still one of of not thee only player that's good enough.
     
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    People says he's a luxury but he's only a luxury because of those around him. If we had better players, we'd have more possession, we'd control more games and Max would get ball in better areas. He's only a luxury because he's surrounded by **** hawks so we need something from him he wasn't really bought for.
     
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    Exactly mate if he was playing for a top team he'd score and assist double what he gets here simply because he'd have more time and more space plus other players would feed him and off him better.

    His attitude atm is appalling though. He's just not trying hard enough and it makes me think he's already aware a big club is keen.
     
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    If he was at Man C or Liverpool, they'd be working every day to improve his decision making, final ball and shooting. Everything else you want from a modern attacking player is there. Whereas here we are probably trying to help him work out where he fits in a team not destined to see much of the ball.

    The only real criticism I have of Eddie at present is Lascelles being selected. He has better options. The rest is just like juggling handfuls of turd. Its not pleasurable however smelly one particular turd is.
     
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    The reason Lascelles played yesterday was as a result of a decent performance against Burnley. I had no problem with his selection yesterday on the grounds of merit from the previous game although he was only brought back for that due to A) him being captain and B) Fed having and still struggling with Long Covid.

    After yesterday's poor performance he should quite rightly be dropped until someone else has a ****ter. I'm going to guess he wont be out the team for long.
     
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    I think Howe might be trying that he has, looked to pass more, but he's not thinking too much and is always on two minds what he's supposed to do. That spilt second of conflicting argument helps the defenders plus he as I said earlier is a known quantity now and they've prepared for the ****er.


    Lacelles? Yes I mean my god he's just so bad and we've had 3 managers now that seem to think he's good.
     
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    I can only assume captaincy is playing a part. Its a bastard Rafa gave him that role. Its easy to sit on the outside and make decisions I suppose. I would have ripped up the hierarchy among the players upon arrival. I would have just went in and said "look we are going to change things up in terms of who plays, how we set up and who is captain etc. Its not been working so lets start afresh."

    Then you haven't alienated anyone but just said we must change. Its easier said than done though, we don't know what's in contracts, how much influence certain players carry, who is huffy sod etc etc.

    I just hate watching cardboard hips, he is so stiff.
     
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