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  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I know perfectly well
    Do you knkw they go on placements? So helping on wards etc
    Scrapping paying for a degree that benefits the whole country would see an increase in enrolment
     
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  2. Drew

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    I agree but you still can only have so many on a placement at once as they need mentoring.

    You can’t put too many unqualified nurses on a stretched ward. This is an obvious long term goal but won’t help this winter.
     
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  3. Kalman

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    Since when did the burden fall on citizens to ‘protect the NHS’? We do our part by paying NI contributions. The government is responsible for funding it and managing it properly. If there’s not enough nurses because the wages are ****e, then that’s number 10’s problem, not ours. The shifting of blame onto ordinary citizens and this cringey ‘clap for the NHS’ bollocks makes me sick. Pay them a decent ****ing salary for the hard graft they do.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    But obviously would help
     
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  5. Der Alte

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    I'm a great supporter of vaccination and would strongly encourage anyone to make full use of the Covid vaccinations and boosters. However, there have to be some niggling concerns that may not be resolved for many years.
    Quite naturally we're all pleased that our chances of suffering very unpleasant infections requiring hospitalisation are reduced. However, the long term effects of even very mild or asymptomatic disease can be dire. For example, Human Papilloma Virus infections are often asymptomatic and were long considered to be insignificant. Then we discovered that certain strains of the virus (initially HPV 16 and HPV 18) were found to trigger squamous cell cancers 15 to 20 years after infection.
    As for the reliable prediction of long term abnormalities following the introduction of new drugs, genetic modelling has improved things. However, some disastrous conditions have taken even longer than thalidomide (recently still in use as the best treatment for leprosy) to turn up. In the 40s and 50s many American women were treated with Diethyl Stilboestrol (DES) - I think it was to limit morning sickness at the time. No obvious short term problems but then, 20 years later, their daughters started to present with particularly nasty vaginal cancers
    The moral of this is that we shouldn't ignore the potential long term effects of any mild or apparently insignificant infection and that adverse effects of new therapies can take a very long time to arise and may be difficult to link to historic treatments.
    All that said though, the low possibility of long term problems should generally be outweighed by the immediate benefits.
     
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  6. Steven Toast

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    Here here.
     
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  7. look_back_in_amber

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    Or even hear, hear <ok>
     
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  8. Steven Toast

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    That too.
     
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  9. Des Head

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    OH MY ****ING GOD, GET THE ****ING VACCINE ALREADY, YOU ****ING ****S
    by WENDY MOLYNEUX

    Hi, if you are reading this essay then congratulations, you are still alive. And if you are alive, then you have either gotten the COVID-19 vaccine, or you still have the opportunity to get the vaccine against COVID-19. And holy ****, if you aren’t ****ing vaccinated against COVID-19, then you need to get ****ing vaccinated right now. I mean, what the ****? **** you. Get vaccinated. ****.

    The ****ing vaccine will not make you magnetic. Are you ****ing kidding me? It just ****ing won’t. That’s not even a ****ing thing, and that lady who tried to pretend the vaccine made her ****ing magnetic looked like a real ****ing ****wad and a ****ing idiot, so get ****ing vaccinated. Jesus. ****.

    The vaccine also doesn’t have a ****ing 5G chip in it. What the **** do you think a ****ing 5G chip is, ****nuts? You think it’s like some invisible nanotechnology they can suspend in a liquid and then just put in your ****ing blood and then it what, exactly? ****ing floats around in your body going on Instagram and telling the government you went to the grocery store? No one ****ing cares where you go, you absolute ****ing ****-barf. **** off with that. ****.

    Oh, you’re afraid of ****ing side effects? **** you. You know what has ****ing side effects? ****ing aspirin, ****ing Tylenol. You could be ****ing allergic to pineapple, you ****ing ****wit. Everything has side effects. You’re being a big ****ing baby with a huge diaper full of ****ing diarrhea, complaining about maybe feeling slightly tired for a day or two while your asymptomatic COVID case you get and pass to some innocent ****ing kid could wind up killing them or someone else. **** you, you ****ing selfish ****ing ****-banana, you unredeemable ass-caterpillar, you ****ing ****-knob with two ****s for eyes and a literal poop where your heart should be. You want a two-month-old to wind up on a ****ing ventilator instead of you, a ****ing adult, getting a ****ing sore arm for a day? What are you, a pitcher for the Yankees? A ****ing concert pianist? An arm model? Get the **** out of here! **** you. Get vaccinated. ****. **** you!

    You think vaccines don’t ****ing work? Oh, **** off into the trash, you attention-seeking ****worm-faced ****butt. This isn’t even a point worth discussing, you ****-o-rama ****-stival of ignorance. Vaccines got rid of smallpox and polio and all the other disgusting diseases that used to kill off little ****s like you en masse. Your relatives got ****ing vaccinated and let you live, and now here you are signing up to be killed by a ****ing disease against which there is a ninety-nine-percent effective vaccine. You ****ing moron. Go in the ****ing ocean and **** a piranha. ****. **** that. **** you. Get vaccinated.

    Oh, you say you have a genuine allergy or medical condition that prevents you from receiving a ****ing vaccine? That’s fine. I’m clearly not talking to you. I ****ing love you. ****.

    Look, if you have been forwarded this essay from a friend or loved one, then there are two possibilities. Either you are a normal, regular, sensible ****ing person like me who got ****ing vaccinated at the first possible moment, and this essay channels all your ****ing rage and sadness and is therefore cathartic OR, and I really hope this isn’t the ****ing case, you AREN’T ****ing vaccinated, and someone sent it to you because you ****ing ****ing ****, you need to get ****ing vaccinated. And rather than being ****ing offended that someone is trying yet again to get you to take the ****ing vaccine, you should understand that someone ****ing loves you enough to try one last motherfucking time to get you to take the ****ing vaccine before you **** off to heaven, or hell, or some in-between place that’s just like a ****ing mall or something where everything is free, including and especially the soft pretzels. So, congratulations! There is ONE person remaining in your life who wants to ****ing save you from drowning in your own ****ing lungs, you ****ing ******** ****dick, so for god’s sake, get your ****ing ass out of your chair, go to the ****ing pharmacy, and get a ****ing vaccine, you absolute conscienceless ****ing **** **** ****. Get it. Get the ****ing vaccine. **** you. **** **** ****. ****. **** you. ****!

    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...the-****ing-vaccine-already-you-****ing-****s
     
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  10. Gone For A Walk

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    TBF, I think it's sort of like a joint responsibility in situations like this.
    And it's not as simple as just throwing more money and people resources at it. As you say, it needs 'managing properly', something that clearly hasn't been happening for at least a coupe or more decades now.
    But I 100% agree with your comment about salary, and that of care workers and many others who look after us.
     
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  11. PLT

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    **** all and that's one of the real issues.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    **** off im not having you agree with me
     
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  13. Gone For A Walk

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    Unless you are in Scotland of course.
    ****ing ridiculous.
     
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  15. TIGERSCAVE

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    As I've said before, wait until April before the **** really does hit the fan in the NHS...
     
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  16. Drew

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    Why April?
     
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    Omicron coronavirus cases have surged by as much as 400% in some parts of South Africa - although the country's health ministry has said there is mounting evidence the variant causes milder infection.

    South Africa reported more than 22,000 new infections on Thursday, a record during the fourth wave but still below the more than 26,000 daily cases seen during the peak of the Delta variant.

    Health Minister Joe Phaahla said Gauteng Province had seen a "very significant" increase in COVID-19 cases of "more than 400%" in the week of 4 December 2021 compared to the previous seven days - with hospital admissions up by 200%.

    He added the Omicron strain had fuelled the surge and said: "While there is an increasing rate of hospitalisations, it may be due to overall big numbers of infections.

    "It looks like it is purely because of the numbers rather than as a result of any severity of the variant itself."

    Of those admitted to hospital, 70% were unvaccinated - however, it is worth noting South Africa has a relatively low rate of vaccination, with just over 25% of the population fully jabbed.

    By comparison in the UK, 81% of adults have had both doses of a vaccine.

    Glenda Gray, president of the South African Medical Research Council, said: "We are seeing this vaccine is maintaining effectiveness.

    "It may be slightly reduced, but we are seeing effectiveness being maintained for hospital admissions and that is very encouraging."

    Young people in South Africa aged 18 to 35 have the lowest rate of vaccination in the country - with less than 30% having had jabs.

    "The young adults are not coming up in good numbers and we want to urge them to not listen to what they read on social media, all the anti-vax stories," said Mr Phaahla.

    He said figures showed that "those who are vaccinated are much better protected".
     
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  18. Drew

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    This is really promising news, if you’ve had the vaccine.
     
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  19. TIGERSCAVE

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    Thats the date set for NHS staff to be jabbed to they get sacked...
     
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  20. TIGERSCAVE

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    And something the government should have taken into consideration...
     
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