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  1. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    Heart desease, diabetes,over weight, heavy smoking. All potentially linked to bad habits, choices and high percentage of Covid deaths. Education is an answer but if some won’t take it in then we will always have this problem. I’ve started a real life changing diet after hearing I have bladder cancer and it’s opened up my eyes to what I can do to help myself…
    Sometimes you only get one chance to change..
     
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  2. Ric Glasgow

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    Best wishes that your problem can be sorted:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Ric…
    Not my first time with the big C.
    Going to give it a good go.
     
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  4. Ric Glasgow

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    I'm sure I speak on behalf of everyone on these threads...You have our support.

    On a personal level,feel free to P.M for a chat,whatever,at any time..
     
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  5. Barchullona

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    Good wishes and hope it goes well.
     
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  6. Muzz

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    They were also pretty pointless. It was an honesty system in which you ticked a pass or a fail box on the NHS app. You tick pass they send you a covid pass electronically. I wonder how many would have voluntarily ticked fail after spending a lot of money to get a ticket for an England tournament game at Wembley.
     
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  7. Phinius T Bookbinder

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    Many thanks..
     
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  8. Phinius T Bookbinder

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    Thanks Barca
     
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  9. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    Anyone want to guess what these “more severe measures” will be?


    More severe restrictions needed to 'turn around' Omicron spread - expert
    Andrew Hayward, director of the UCL Institute of Epidemiology and Health Care, told Sky News it is important we "react fast" to the latest COVID mutation.

    He said: "The scary thing about this is because it's going up so fast you'll get a very high peak.

    "If you think about a month's worth of rain falling in a few days, that leads to flooding, and it's a similar type of scenario."

    Asked whether the PM's Plan B will be sufficient, Mr Hayward said: "It will slow the spread, but it's not going to turn it around.

    I think you would need much more severe restrictions to turn it around.
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

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    There’s no hope about it
    It WILL go well
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Following yesterday’s announcement from the Government regarding the move to ‘Plan B’ for Covid-19 safety regulations, Hull City would like to provide an update to supporters.

    Confirmation on the specific measures for attending matches, and what it means for fans is pending as we await clarification from the authorities. We will provide regular updates as and when we receive further information from the EFL and will make fans aware of the precise measures needed to attend games at the MKM Stadium.

    Supporters should be aware that these changes will not have an impact on this Saturday’s Sky Bet Championship home fixture against Bristol City, as seven days’ notice has been given before the restrictions come into effect.


    We would like to thank you for your patience and understanding as we navigate our way through the new policy changes. Updates will be provided across our channels as soon as possible ahead of our first home game after the new regulations come into effect, which is our Boxing Day fixture against Blackburn Rovers.
     
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  12. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    1 million cases per day predicted - seems a bit OTT, we have 90% vacc rate. The numbers don’t make sense


    Omicron Covid cases could soon exceed one million a day, says Sajid Javid
    Number of infections is likely to be close to 10,000 already, with the new variant set to be dominant by Christmas, says Health Secretary

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    Omicron cases could exceed one million a day by the end of this month, on the current trajectory, the Health Secretary has said.

    Sajid Javid said the actual number of infections of the variant already in this country was likely to be close to 10,000 - a figure 20 times higher than that which has been confirmed.

    He told the Commons: "Although there are only 568 confirmed Omicron cases in the UK we know that the actual number of infections will be significantly higher.

    "The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) estimates that the number of infections are approximately 20 times higher than the number of confirmed cases, and so the current number of infections is probably closer to 10,000.

    "UKHSA also estimate that at the current observed doubling rate of between two and a half and three days, by the end of this month, infections could exceed 1 million."

    On Wednesday officials said they expected the variant to be dominant by Christmas based on current trends.

    Spread of omicron 'likely' to lead to increased hospital admissions
    Meanwhile, minutes from a meeting of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) on Tuesday warn that the rapid spread of omicron is very likely to lead to a rise in hospital admissions.

    At the moment, around 769 patients per day are being admitted to hospital in the UK.

    The Sage minutes say the peak is “highly likely to be higher than 1,000 to 2,000 Omicron hospital admissions per day without intervention to slow the speed of increasing infections”.

    They go on to warn that even with interventions made, hospital admissions could still rise as much as 16-fold in coming weeks - which would mean more than 11,000 admissions.

    The minutes say the proportion of omicron infections that result in hospital admission is not yet known.

    But they suggest that even if there was a "modest reduction in severity" of illness compared to the Delta variant, this "would not avert high numbers of hospitalisations if growth rates remained very high".

    "With lags of the order of two or more weeks, and doubling times of the order of three days, it is likely that, once hospitalisations begin to increase at a rate similar to that of cases, four doublings (a 16-fold increase) or more could already be 'in the system' before interventions that slow infections are reflected in hospitalisations," Sage said.

    The scientists also suggested that finding and isolating cases through contact tracing may become less effective if people are becoming infectious sooner.

    Possible greater role for airborne transmission
    Evidence from so-called "super-spreader" events also "suggest a greater role for airborne transmission than has previously been the case," Sage said.

    It added: "This means that measures to reduce airborne spread such as ventilation, well-fitting masks and distancing or reduced density of people in indoor environments may be even more important."

    In an assessment prepared for Sage, the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling, Operational sub-group (SPI-M-O) said that "any significant wave of infection, almost irrespective of immune escape, will spill over into hospitalisations.

    "If initial estimates of transmission advantage and immune escape from South Africa are applicable to the UK population, there is the potential for a peak of infections much larger than that experienced in January 2021.

    "Even if severity of Omicron were half that of Delta, the sheer number of infections could lead to significantly more pressures on health and care settings; currently there is no strong evidence that Omicron infections are either more or less severe than Delta infections."

    The group said that if omicron's immune escape reduces vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation from, say, 96 per cent to 92 per cent, "that would effectively double the number of vaccinated individuals who are not protected from hospitalisation."
     
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  13. Kalman

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    Didn’t the scientists who discovered the omicron variant in South Africa say it had fairly mild symptoms? If so, shouldn’t we want it to spread as much as possible as the more dominant omicron becomes, it will cause the more deadly and severe Delta variant to be replaced?
     
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  14. Ric Glasgow

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    I recall reading that too and until such times as that's proven to be false I think people should remain calm...These panic,doomsday,worst case scenario projections serve no purpose!

    As you say,if it's mild maybe it's beneficial to allow a spread.
     
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  16. Erik

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    It's the same bullshit as before. It's amazing that even now, nearly two years on from 'two weeks to flatten the curve' and with the introduction of digital health passports to 'allow' you your basic freedoms as a human being (something which was 'never going to happen' just a few weeks ago <laugh>), your suspicions aren't roused in the slightest. In March 2020 I panicked a little and felt greatly concerned about what I was hearing, more for my family than anything else, but it didn't take long for me to recognise it as a play. These people just throw out any old nonsense and you all fall for it, hook, line and sinker, no doubt because you're unthinking automatons like everyone else.

    What was the deal with the Chinese propaganda videos we saw, showing people literally dropping down in the streets?
    When did you last hear about Nightingale Hospitals and why haven't they been better utilised to house the apparently-huge numbers of people falling ill?
    Why have the common cold and influenza seemingly disappeared?
    Why are you afraid of a virus that manifests no symptoms in most who contract it?
    What happened to the other variants that were going to ravage us?
    Why has there been so little airtime given to the people who identified the 'Omicron' variant, who say if anything it is milder still than even the original?
    Why did the World Health Organisation change its definition of immunity on its official website, to imply it was only possible via vaccination and not naturally?
    Why is this virus apparently UNIQUE amongst ALL respiratory illnesses in being highly dangerous, but also easily-stopped with a piece of cloth over the mouth?
    Why have all of the major players in government been caught out, breaking their own rules and doing as they please? Are they not party to the best information?
    Why weren't international flights and other arrivals stopped, to prevent the spread of the virus?
    Why do you trust the medical advice of the same companies manufacturing billions of pounds worth of 'vaccine' when they tell you that you need one?

    So many questions
     
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  17. Kalman

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    I don’t agree with you often and I’ve been deferring to the experts in regards to the virus because I thought it was for the best but I’m starting to come round to parts of what you’re saying. They’re taking the absolute piss out of us now. We were all told double-jagged would be sufficient, not for complete immunity, but enough to lessen the severity of symptoms and reduce transmission. Now they’re talking about 6 month boosters indefinitely and covid passports. It’s utter bollocks.

    If Omicron has mild symptoms but higher transmission rates, let it run rampant and replace the Delta variant. There’s no need for this walking on eggshells.
     
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  18. Ric Glasgow

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    I have to say myself(and I am double jabbed and boostered)some of this is reasonable debate.
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Good post
     
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