1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Eddie Howe

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by ToonArmy1892, Nov 9, 2021.

?

Happy with Howe? 1 = not happy 10 = delighted

  1. 1

    1.4%
  2. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 3

    1.4%
  4. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 5

    2.9%
  6. 6

    2.9%
  7. 7

    17.1%
  8. 8

    22.9%
  9. 9

    15.7%
  10. 10

    35.7%
  1. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
    The truth hurts and I see what your saying. I have seen marginal improvements but not the sweeping ones others seem to have seen.

    I guarantee you that fist pumps Ritchie and Fraser all start against Burnley.

    Lewis has a very good game imho.

    Fernandez was our best player.

    I know Howe can’t predict the future but he should have picked Fern over Clark anyways. Clark has been poor all season.

    On the match day thread some where saying he would cost us a goal. He nearly cost us the game.
     
    #241
  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,901
    Likes Received:
    11,866
    He just needs to get his arse on this forum. Would make his life a lot easier. Schar made a mistake, but the difference is he offers a threat from deep so should be played, and if he was there regularly Fede and Dubs would cover for a cock up. Clark is just terrible. Lewis was like watching a left back play. Why has he been kept on the bench for a non-left back the entire season? ****ing astonishing.

    Newcastle United best XI: Dubs, Manq, Schar, Fede, Lewis. Shelvey, Willock, Almiron. Joe, ASM, Wilson.

    Shelvey stays deeper, Willock and Almiron right and left of the midfield three, Joe right, ASM left of Wilson. Fraser/Murphy are options for wide, Longstaff your best midfield sub. Get the four useless lumps sold and replaced with better 1st Jan.
     
    #242
    Prince Isak (GG) likes this.
  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    I have a different view.

    I saw us dominate vs Brentford and a much improved side, but because of Darlow being **** we didn't get the win. Arsenal was just Arsenal away and we should've had 2 pens and got something despite being up against a much better side. Last night I saw 10 minutes where I thought it's going to be a case of whether they score and felt confident, but then it happened. The pace and running of willock eliminated the extra space vastly and nufc were still in the game and nearly won. Once you're down to 10 we still looked better than the 11 Bruce has away at wolves.

    I think we're going to be ok.. Individual errors are costing us
     
    #243
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2021
  4. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,901
    Likes Received:
    11,866
    The selection of both Clark and Darlow are Howe’s mistakes.

    Bringing on Hayden was misjudged, cost us the Norwich game as much as Clark did. Howe clearly not to blame for individual stupidity but this entire forum has said they shouldn’t be on a football field.

    I think Burnley will get something as well. As I’ve said our unique position may yet see us get out of it, but the new era hasn’t been brilliant in its infancy.
     
    #244
  5. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Yes I felt putting darlow in was a mistake and said so pre match Brentford, but having said that even he isn't usually that useless.

    Clark has been a solid player for us but you can't plan for player making that kind of decision.

    The side put out would've destroyed that Norwich 11 imo and its a shame.. All is not lost.

    I do have a worry that lacelles will walk straight back in the back 4? It's clear schar and feddy are way better...
     
    #245
  6. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,901
    Likes Received:
    11,866
    Agreed, but I think Ritchie walking back in would be a much worse error.
     
    #246
    Munson. likes this.

  7. Mick O'Toon

    Mick O'Toon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    34,043
    Likes Received:
    27,700
    There really was something wrong when Schar and Lewis couldn't get on the pitch with Bruce,all about him,the ****.
     
    #247
  8. TinosTippyToes

    TinosTippyToes New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2021
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    How many NUFC employees are on here do you reckon?
     
    #248
  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    I agree. I don't understand the cribbing of Willock last night. I thought it was one of the best midfield tactical displays given by a midfielder for us in ages. His energy levels and effort were excellent - he basically covered off two oppo players by just being smart where he positioned himself. Due to the protection he gave and running he did, we actually weren't all that troubled last night. Got a bit stretched at the end but **** me after **** for brains decision on 10mins, I think we can forgive that.
     
    #249
    magpie290761 and Munson. like this.
  10. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Darlow lacelles ritchie and Hayden need to be dropped.. They're seen in at least 3 cases to be 1st team players and #what you need.

    What we really need is to move on from the cloggers that have got us in this mess in the 1st place.

    I wouldn't care our best 11 available is actually a decent looking side... We got 10 minutes of it yesterday then Clark spazzed it
     
    #250
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2021
  11. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    The clue was what unfolded the minute he was replaced. Until that moment it was 50/50, but as soon as he was gone Norwich were all of a sudden getting extra space and time.

    Honestly with 11 nufc would've pissed that game
     
    #251
    Warmir Pouchov likes this.
  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    Yeah and that's nothing against Hayden who tried hard. But the space opened up as you say because he wasn't as smart tactically and positionally. I was worried the moment he departed because I thought he had such a massive impact on the game. I'd have actually removed ASM a lot earlier for Almiron. But I can understand I don't have the fitness data they do on Willock so maybe they had to protect him.
     
    #252
  13. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    I think Howe tried to shot the door and of course Hayden seen as a dm... And Almiron is fast and grafts, but unfortunately the changes really didn't work.
     
    #253
  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    Difficult balance as always. When you are in that situ you want to change nothing. But as a manager I suppose he sees people gassing, has his coaches telling him they're in the red zone and he has another big game Saturday. Life of a manager.
     
    #254
  15. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    He must've realised he made a mistake with Darlow and Clark but has he realised lacelles Hayden and Ritchie would be another mistake?
     
    #255
  16. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2021
    Messages:
    18,029
    Likes Received:
    15,455
    That's the thing.

    I will be amazed if Lascelles doesn't come back in, which will mean he has got every selection wrong so far, and it is costing us vital points.
     
    #256
  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    I think he'll give Lewis a chance now. Hayden I don't think is his cup of tea by looks of it, it was telling he went the way he did. Lascelles is the one that concerns me because he was instantly picked, and even looking back at the previous games under the last manager, any game this season or last he would see that Lascelles has regressed a fair way. It used to be he took 6 games to get up to speed. Now his permanent level appears to be that of the guy who is trying to get up to speed.

    Him and Clark are done in my eyes. Its not a form thing, their level has dropped. The way Clark has regressed is worrying. Single worst player this season and lets be honest, that does actually take some doing with Lascelles and Darlow in there.
     
    #257
  18. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2021
    Messages:
    18,029
    Likes Received:
    15,455
    He keeps picking the wrong team, it has to be said.

    Willock and Shelvey away has to stop.

    Lascelles ahead of Fede is lifting.

    It's costing us points.
     
    #258
    Prince Isak (GG) likes this.
  19. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30,155
    Likes Received:
    17,293
    The problem is he sees them in training. **** players against **** players so it appears they are better.

    Fact is Howe will learn fast that this weird obsession with 4-4-2 doesn’t work in modern day football.

    Shelvey may have played ok lately but today is the perfect example of why football has moved on.

    Maddison absolutely bossed him. Made him look like a **** player.

    Our players are **** but they are the same players that Bruce got us to 12th last season.

    Howe is in danger of losing all the goodwill.
     
    #259
  20. ToonArmy1892

    ToonArmy1892 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2021
    Messages:
    18,029
    Likes Received:
    15,455
    Add to that picking Darlow in the first game, bringing Clark and Krafth in.

    We haven't got time for him to be learning on the job.

    I want him to do well and don't want him out or anything, but it's hardly been a good start.

    The players are ****e, but his selections are also costing us.
     
    #260

Share This Page