there is still alot of ill feeling towards michael for australia 1994 when he tangled with hill , i dont think people in england ever forgave schumacher for that , i am not sure how people in other nations view micheal , when you look at the accident closely what did hill honestly expect when he tried such an ill thought out maneuver at a silly part of the track , ----- did he seriously think schumacher was not going to make it hard for him , the bottom line was benettone and ferrari had absolute faith in micheal and put all there resources at micheals disposal and he never once let them down and unlike some of his modern day counterparts he showed a great intelligence and maturity in and out of the car whilst delivering for benettone and ferrari --------- and then some -
The advantages and resources put into Michael were put there for a reason. Because he could develop them to the optimum standard, and because he was an elite driver. Mercedes is a long term progress, and they need Schumacher to aid them to develop, as long as he is fit and mentally strong enough, he should keep on driving.
Your welcome, I've noticed that Michael gets a lot of stick off British fans who can be very partisan, while I don't agree with it I can understand it if they are diehards for their hero Hill and so on.
very likely there were drivers in the pitlane equally as good as schumacher in relaying a cars on track behaviour back to the enginers who then relay it back to the designers and aerodynamic team , if thats what you mean by developing a car , any experianced driver is capable of doing that , make no mistake the real catalyst behind all of micheals success was benettones / ferrari / brilliant designer rory byrne who tailor made his chassis"s for micheals pointy , turn in quick oversteering style ,having bridgestone tailor made there tyres for byrnes chassis"s also played a major part in micheals achievments , todt and brawn obviously realised the benefits of team orders and pooling all the resources with one very quick intelligent driver and micheal did not dissapoint there faith in such a system and delivered in spades for them --- schumacher had the intelligence and talent to maximise his position within such a structure -- not every driver could have done that or could of had the ability to do it -- ----- fair play to micheal for that --
This is a very good thread and interesting to read peoples comments but for me Schumi will always be a hero, he's not perfect but who is, and usually those that try to be are very boring people indeed.
Schumacher's driving style was certainly distinct. At Benetton all the cars were set-up for him and whilst neither Verstappen, Lehto or Herbet can be considered slow drivers, they rarely got within 2s of him! He had a way to drive his cars in a way that others couldn't, which is why the teams had to give all their resources to him as trying to have two equal cars would not have worked as it would have always been a compromise.
i am not here to bicker with you or anybody else for that matter cc ,we are all familiar with your intense dislike for schumacher , but the least you can do if you disagree with anybodys topic and the specific relevent points mentioned within that topic is to address those points with a reasoned measured knowledgeable alternative , to just highlight each of my points and then just put the sigle word " nonsense " to each individual point is not really what the art of debate is all about and does not add any credibility to any difference of opinion you may have with any F1 related points --
Unfortunately I honestly believe we are in for some very dull seasons as Vettel takes all Schumachers records away from him.
Credit where credit is due, you know your stuff pal. With in-season testing set to return, as well as the classic "Schumacher GP team" returning in the form of Mercedes there are going to be good times ahead, if ... Redbull can be stopped. Vettel v Schumacher for race wins, that would be massive.
there is no doubt that micheal has put in a few strong performances this season , and would not surprise me if he is even stronger next year as fitness is not a problem for him , with the recruitment of geof willis and aldo costa mercedes will at last have a proper design team which in turn will make rosberg and schumacher alot more competitive , i can see schumacher giving the big names alot of trouble next year --
schumacher was mighty that day , as he was at monza when toying with hamilton - looking forward to seeing him next year in what should be a competitive chassis with the mighty mercedes V8 ---
I wouldn't be surprised if Schumacher becomes the dominant Mercedes driver next year. Already he's more than a match for Rosberg on Sundays and Costa was effectively Byrne's protege at Ferrari, so his input into the 2012 Mercedes will help Schumacher a lot.
You'd be a fool to underestimate him, that's for sure. The band is getting back together and you would expect great things. That's why part of me wouldn't be shocked to see Hamilton make the switch to Merc down the line.
But you are bickering! You are bickering at being disagreed with and not in the way you want me to make my points! And you are not welcoming "anybody's thoughts". I am not here to be told how to debate by you Martial. But since you insist, I will explain the logic of my original response (whether you like it or not). In your original post you made several comments which begin "I believe"; "I think"; etc. That's fine by me; you stated your opinion and that's what debate is about, even if I don't feel your beliefs and thoughts are correct, and even if I don't care for the way you make your statements. I felt that in quoting it, you would see precisely where me disagreements were, which was my intention. I cannot be bothered to regurgitate endlessly repetitive arguments to justify my disagreement with some (not all) of your stated opinion. I have no need to and no wish to; and it is entirely my prerogative to disagree with some of your statements, even if the way I choose to do it does not suit you. As you clearly know (and for some reason keep saying), I make no secret of my dislike for Schumacher, and obviously I have my reasons. But restating them every time a Schumacher thread fires up would be as boring as the subject itself. I am sure you know the arguments against your claims. You do not need me to repeat them. I am not going to set up targets for you to take pot shots at which will get us nowhere other than to make a mess of your own thread by turning the heat up. I have no interest in what one might call 'heated debate' and am making every effort to avoid it. But I will not be told how to debate by you. I simply disagree with some of your beliefs - which you have not explained; and some of your thoughts - which you have either not explained or used spurious or erroneous logic. I have not objected to your lack of explanation; after all, it is your prerogative. Similarly, I have based my refutations in the same vein. Either read it or ignore it: as I'm sure you know, it's your prerogative…
