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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. tomw24

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    This is a direct quote from the BBC article:

    UK has high levels of immunity
    The UK has, in effect, already had the wave the rest of Europe is seeing and has managed to avoid being swamped by it.

    That is mainly because of the amount of immunity built up.

    A combination of good vaccine rollout, particularly among the older more vulnerable groups who are the ones most at risk of serious illness, and natural immunity from infection means there is likely to be a much smaller pool of vulnerable people for the virus to infect.
     
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  2. San Tejón

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    Oh, if the BBC says it, it must be right.
    I prefer to take my understanding of the word “immunity” from the dictionary.
     
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  3. tomw24

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    Given how high case numbers have been immunity is going to be much higher in the UK than other countries. Hence why numbers are stable. The situation in the UK is far from perfect, but I'd much rather be in our situation than the one most European countries now find themselves in. Of course we could lower the numbers by implementing a lockdown but that's just going to piss everyone off and the numbers don't justify it. I agree they should have made face masks mandatory again though.
     
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  4. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    My eldest daughter has been fully vaccinated and still caught the virus from one of her pupils. She was really quite unwell for three weeks and has still not got back to her usual self.
     
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  5. StJabbo1

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    What constitutes a lockdown? Covid pass and/or negative test for entry and international travel will probably be the norm. Being part of the vaccinated majority I couldn't give a flyer if those that choose not to get vaccinated are excluded and pissed off.
     
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    Another 44,000 new cases today, by far the worst anywhere in the world. How people like Tom are so complacent about this completely baffles me.
     
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  7. tomw24

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    Erm.....Germany's been getting 40k new cases a day, Russia is in the 30k's. And Russia has reported 1,243 deaths today, Germany 226, Poland 398, Ukraine 720, Romania 243.
     
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    Data here. UK is the worst for new cases.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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  9. tomw24

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  10. ChilcoSaint

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    The only country with more deaths per head of population is Peru.
     
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  11. tomw24

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    Overall yes, but I'm talking about the situation now. Deaths are low, I've obeyed all the rules, I wear a face mask in crowded places, I've had 2 doses of the vaccine. So I'm damned if I'm going to mope around wasting my life worrying about things I can't control. Life is too short for that.
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

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    I wrote a couple of weeks ago about how a third of the patient in the care home unit my wife works in were killed by Covid with a few days. All were double-jabbed, but their immunity had obviously worn off in the 7 months since their second doses. That’s the thing about any major event, if it doesn’t affect you directly, it’s easy to dismiss. I applaud you wearing a mask, like you I always put one on indoors while I’m moving about. But they should be mandatory, there’s no excuse for them not being.
     
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  13. StJabbo1

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    From https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
    "Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate
    Weekly
    1,197: Weekly number of deaths where COVID-19 is mentioned as a cause on the death certificate, registered during the week ending Friday, 12 November 2021".
    "Total 167,927"
     
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  14. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    You are right and your life could be surprisingly short.
     
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    Feeling quite rough today after my booster jab yesterday. Still, it’s done now.
     
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  16. tomw24

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    True, I could be hit by a car tomorrow. More chance of that than dying of covid.
     
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    Have there been in excess of 167,000 people killed by cars in the UK in the last 20 months? Or 5,000,000 worldwide?

    Thought not.
     
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  18. tomw24

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    Yes, but I was talking about me. I'm 30 years old, in good health. Chances are if I get covid it will be very mild symptoms if any. Like I said, more chance I'm killed by a car.
     
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    Be careful then!
     
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    You're terrible at probabilities. As an example of the actual odds, COVID has been the second-leading cause of death for people aged 25-40 in Texas (population: 30 million) since the start of the pandemic:

    https://insidemedicine.bulletin.com/1508474649509593

    Getting hit by a car was not in fact the leading cause of death, so no: you are by no means more likely to die by getting hit by a car, unless you're actively throwing yourself in front of cars on an hourly basis.
     
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