I think somebody posted the ONS death count of both vaccinated & unvaccinated the other day. If I remember there was 33x more chance of dying if unvaccinated. With the additional info in the article I’d suggest that chance is actually higher as the vaccinated deaths are more than likely to have had underlying issues. It would be useful to have a death count of vaccinated & unvaccinated for people who were healthy before catching Covid
Of the total deaths in that last lot of ONS published data, only 2% were fully vaccinated, I assume the amount of people in ICU's is similar.
"Most of the resources that we are devoting to Covid in hospital are now being spent on the unvaccinated." "Translating this to the choice not to take the vaccine, however, I find my patience wearing thin. I think this is for a number of reasons. Even if you are not worried about your own risk from Covid, you cannot know the risk of the people into whose faces you may cough; there is a dangerous and selfish element to this that I find hard to stomach." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cinated-my-patience-with-them-is-wearing-thin
What if they are concerned about the risk of the vaccine? Why should a low risk healthy 20 year old be put at risk because "your patience was wearing thin". I'm just playing devils advocate...and you can look at my previous posts to determine were I am at. But vaccine mandates are a very slippery slope, very slippery indeed. Are you going to drag people out of houses? Be interesting to see how they approach that in Austria. Regular testing is more than sufficient, there is an argument (not mine) that's not required.
Good article .... but the last sentence above ( about coughing in other faces) is surely irrelevant as vaccination doesn't prevent you getting COVID does it? Please explain if I am wrong. Ta. ( I am vaccinated and will soon get the booster).
The consensus seems to be. No it doesn’t completely stop you getting covid or passing it on, it significantly reduces the chance of either happening. 70% reduction in likelihood I think was mentioned
I honestly didn't know and haven't seen that. Do you have a link please? Not doubting you but if true that's pretty compelling.
"What if they are concerned about the risk of the vaccine?" Absolutely. It must be awful thinking of the chronic side effects to the vaccine that will result in hospitalisation, and realise all the ICU beds are occupied by the non-vaccinated. Do you think they left it too late to be faced with such a dilemma?
Don't think that's an A380 but whatever it is it's doing well to get off the ground with 8,000 tons of liquid on board.
People who are fully vaccinated against covid-19 are far less likely to infect others, despite the arrival of the delta variant, several studies show. The findings refute the idea, which has become common in some circles, that vaccines no longer do much to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. “They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.” A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated. https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/
You are the one talking about a slippery slope. The nanny state regulating behavior to protect the health of the individual? Quite a lot of objection at the time but now widely accepted? Suit your ****ing self.
