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Grand Prix thread Ooredoo Qatar Grand Prix 2021

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by ched999uk, Nov 18, 2021.

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Who will gain the 25 points for a win?

Poll closed Nov 20, 2021.
  1. Lewis Hamilton

    73.3%
  2. Max Verstappen

    6.7%
  3. Valtteri Bottas

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    0.0%
  4. Sergio Perez

    6.7%
  5. Lando Norris

    6.7%
  6. Carlos Sainz

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Charles Leclerc

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Sebastian Vettel

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Fernando Alonso

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Any Other

    6.7%
  1. pieguts

    pieguts Mentor

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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Merc pushed it past the pirelli advice but 3 or 4 laps.

    Were clearly well into 1 stop territory.
     
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  3. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    Well that wasn't a good strat call running that long on mediums. Just shows how hard they are pushing! Wonder if they would have kept him out that long had he not lost so many places at start?
     
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  4. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    How close were they to bringing him in I wonder, looked like they were trying for a 1 stop with softs, considering how long he was out, they were going for 2nd I think.
     
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    Poor Bottas. Whenever something dramatic happens to Mercedes, it's nearly always him.

    His pace was still fine. If it's a wear-based puncture it's quite bad for Pirelli. No warning at all.
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    no, looks bad on Mercedes as it's well past the advised maximum life.
     
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  7. ched999uk

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    I was thinking they were trying to increase gap to Perez to allow pit stop and stay in front of him. Think they only needed 2 seconds more.
     
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    Can’t blame Valtteri for that .
     
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  9. Julius Caesar

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    It's partially their fault, but the tyres really should drop off before they burst.
     
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    It's odd as his pace was still good until the puncture. Was it just wear or did he run over something? It's odd there can be grip for good lap times yet it can just go at the drop of a hat like that.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's the front left which is highest loaded that goes.

    I said yesterday that merc were talking 1 stop and low tyre deg and horner was talking high wear front left.

    Mercedes ****ed this up.

    30 laps medium and 27 on hard is no issue at all.

    Mr wolff has got this wrong and perez has 3rd sewn up.

    Bottas' only use here is to go and rob fastest lap point off verstappen
     
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    ok, we'll split the difference, it looks bad on both.
     
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    Seems strange to pit Perez as they lose constructors points?
     
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    Would be nice to see Alonso on podium.
     
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    Not enjoying this track...
     
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  16. Mark Blow

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    Alonso has a good chance of the podium here
     
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  17. Mark Blow

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    Bottas will be brought in for fastest lap
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    More great driving from Perez and ocon

    Nobody complains with elbows out. Funny that...

    :)
     
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    Red Bull seems to be trying to make the race entertaining single-handedly by dumping Perez into as much traffic as possible.
     
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    Astonishing strategy with Perez from Red Bull.

    I have never seen such poor decision making.


    Alonso will deserve his podium though
     
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