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  1. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

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    I think these are the only things that can start to bring infections down, sadly they're things we seem to be not very good at.
     
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    I think there's a lot of "bored now" attitude amongst some people towards these things, washing hands being another measure that's easy to do.

    Everyone needs to do whatever they can to protect themselves and their loved ones this winter, because looking at the news this is not a season to be old, sick or in an accident.
     
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    It's also noticeable that many shops have stopped providing hand sanitisation kit at the door, big mistake imo. I know it's a cost to them but it must be one of the easier ones to recover.
     
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    Chapeau


    He’s a hero’ – the teacher who hand-delivered 15,000 free school meals in lockdown
    Assistant head Zane Powles made sure no child went hungry when his school closed. Our Guardian Angel treats Powles to a survival weekend in the wild
    Sirin Kale
    When Zane Powles realised that the UK was probably going into a lockdown in March last year, his first thought was about the schoolchildren. Specifically, their stomachs. “I thought: how will the kids get their free school meals?” says the 49-year-old assistant headteacher from Cleethorpes. “I know our kids live hand to mouth.” Powles’s solution was straightforward: he would personally deliver them all. And so he did: 15,000 meals, over a distance of 900 miles, through lockdowns one, two and three.

    In rain and hot sun, Powles pounded the streets, meals in tow, for the next 12 months. Christmas lights appeared in windows, and were packed away again. “I delivered meals for one week short of a year,” says Powles. “It’s mad looking back. Crazy.”

    “He’s an absolute hero without a cape,” says Claire Pulfrey, a parent at Powles’s school. “I have a son with ADHD and it got to a point at the end of the last lockdown where I was struggling to cope. Seeing Zane every day was like a little ball of happiness.”

    Before Covid, Powles ran a unit attached to a Grimsby primary school for children with challenging behaviour. “I’ve been running the unit for nine years,” he says. “I get hit by a kid probably six times a week. They’re just communicating with me the only way they can. You have to get past that, and find out what the real problem is.”

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    Zane Powles on his survival course in Surrey.
    Grimsby is one of the most deprived areasof the UK. “Families haven’t got much,” says Powles. “The vast majority of families are trying their best, but they are struggling. The issues are cyclical and generational.” Students often go to school hungry.

    On 23 March 2020, when lockdown was announced, Powles looked at the list of children on free school meals, and mapped out their home addresses. There were 85 meals to be delivered each day. Powles would get into school at 7.30am to prepare the lunch bags with the headteacher and whoever else was around. Then he’d set off, wearing two backpacks – one on his front and one on his back – and carrying a bin liner full of crisps.

    “I was carrying around 50kg a day,” says Powles. “I’d have to come back mid-morning to reload.” The bags dug painful welts in his shoulders. When it was hot, his back would be covered in sweat. Powles damaged his knee badly as a result of all the walking, and is currently awaiting surgery.

    Later, when vouchers for free school meals were introduced, the parcels got even heavier. Powles was cramming jacket potatoes and baked beans into the backpacks. “Bloody hell,” he says. “It was very heavy.” At Christmas time, Powles became a festive carthorse, dragging 250 Christmas hampers loaded on to a trailer. “Man,” he says, “that was painful.”

    Despite his aching shoulders and damaged knee, Powles was glad to see the families face to face, to check all was well at home.

    There was one mother who would normally save a few pounds a week during term to put towards feeding her children over the holidays. But she wasn’t prepared, as schools had shut suddenly, and only one of her children was entitled to free school meals. “I realised,” Powles said, “she was halving his meal to feed the other child.” Powles arranged for an extra meal to be delivered every day. “The kid said to me, ‘Mr Powles, you saved the world!’.”

    Powles can relate to these families. “One of the reasons I have such a connection to these children,” he says, “is because I have been that person.” As a child, he attended six different primary schools, and was also on free school meals. “My mum masked a lot of it,” he says, “because she was a great mum and did her best, in tough circumstances.”

    Despite receiving an MBE for his charity work, he does not see what he did as remarkable. “I was just doing my job,” he says. When I ask Powles what he’d like for his treat, his answer surprises me. “This will sound really weird,” he ventures. “Have you ever seen the show Naked and Afraid?” Powles hastily clarifies: “I love being challenged. Being out in the wild on my own, and enjoying the beauty of it.”

    Trueways Survival, one of the UK’s largest providers of survival courses, kindly offers Powles a complimentary space on its two-day urban survival course, held near Cranleigh, Surrey. I catch up with him shortly afterwards. He is parked in his camper van, near Marlow, Buckinghamshire. It’s half-term.

    “The instructor was brilliant.” he says. Powles learned to boil water in a plastic bottle and to sterilise and filter water on the move. He plans to buy the special UV pen the instructor recommended for sterilisation. “I’d love to go for three or four days’ wild camping at a time,” says Powles, but he was always put off by the prospect of bringing a four-day supply of water. “I can never carry that much.”

    Now, with the pen, he has found a useful workaround. He plans to take it when he goes wild camping in the Peak District during his next holiday. “I’ll put that knowledge to good use,” says Powles, ever the teacher – and can-do adventurer.
     
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  5. balkan tiger

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    In response to a freedom of information request regarding the Pizer vaccine the FDA (food and drug administration) have said it wants 55 years to release the data.

    They do make it easy for the conspiracy therorists.
     
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    Austria to enter full national lockdown amid record case surge - as fourth wave sweeps Europe

    Paying the price for one of the lowest vaccination rates in Western Europe, they're now making vaccinations mandatory from Feb 1st.
     
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    yup, looks like the 4th wave is tearing across Europe. I still maintain another lock down will happen here, hope I wrong, but……

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  8. Newlandcasual2

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    Well extreme fascism doe's usually start in that part of the world...are they actaully going to pin people down on the ground and inject them, utterly sick and abhorrant in this day and age the thought that this could even be thought of but it seems most of the worlds so called human rights lawers have gone missing this last 18 months.

    Bottom line is being vaccinated doe's not stop you spreading anything so things like covid passports and mandates do nothing for health.
     
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    "People who are fully vaccinated against covid-19 are far less likely to infect others, despite the arrival of the delta variant, several studies show. The findings refute the idea, which has become common in some circles, that vaccines no longer do much to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. “They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.” A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.
    Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...d-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/#ixzz7Cf8iCU3y

    Whether it should be compulsory is another matter.
     
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    That's nonsense.
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

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    The comments below in that are excellent
    It’s basically a piece of **** that would get hammered at peer review but won’t Cos of what it’s about
     
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    Less choice in these matters in communist countries. Being vaccinated does help the effects being lessened so that hospitals aren't full of people who wouldn't have been there and therefore delaying treatment or diagnosis of other things and having operations cancelled. But let's not think about anyone else.
     
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  13. highpeak tiger

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    WHAT WAS CLAIMED
    Covid-19 vaccines offer no protection against transmission of or infection from the virus.

    FACT CHECK
    While they don’t reduce the risk completely, multiple studies have shown vaccines do have a meaningful impact on your chances of catching or passing on the virus once you’ve been vaccinated. Early evidence suggests a booster vaccine will strengthen this effect even more.
     
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  15. Newlandcasual2

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    The general consensus seems to be it's a paltry 3 months before any benifit dissapears...being practical people aren't going to be getting jabbed every 3 months are they, it will more than likely be a yearly booster ?

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59077036
     
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  16. highpeak tiger

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    Almost certainly, for the foreseeable future.
     
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    More nonsense.

    The effectiveness drops a bit after three months, it certainly doesn't disappear.
     
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  18. Newlandcasual2

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    How is it nonsense....pretty clear that double or booster vaccinated people can and are spreading covid

    Or are you in favour of Discrimination re vaccine passports ?
     
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  19. Newlandcasual2

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    It drops to the same levels as unvaccinated, not for the first time on not 606 it appears you cannot read !
     
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    No it absolutely doesn't.

    You're posting inaccurate ****e, then when people post proof of this, you just post some different inaccurate ****e.

    The Lancet - Between Dec 14, 2020, and Aug 8, 2021, of 4 920 549 individuals assessed for eligibility, we included 3 436 957 (median age 45 years [IQR 29–61]; 1 799 395 [52·4%] female and 1 637 394 [47·6%] male). For fully vaccinated individuals, effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infections was 73% (95% CI 72–74) and against COVID-19-related hospital admissions was 90% (89–92). Effectiveness against infections declined from 88% (95% CI 86–89) during the first month after full vaccination to 47% (43–51) after 5 months.
     
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