Different degree of struggle I suppose. It might have been that I have never smoked a cigarette. But running through smoke on exercise always made me cough.
Are flares an important part of the game today then? We need flares for football to progress to the next level, whatever that is? Who knew?
I remember that being in the papers. It was the season Man Utd spent in Div 2. The one the cop has hold off had just booted someone in the face with his platform shoes. The hooligans were a scrawny lot then compared to now. As in this photo showing the importance of flares to Man Utd fans. Hardly terrifying, are they? please log in to view this image
He knows he never (rarely) is left out the starting 11. What a joke. And for this reason alone, McCann should be gone.
What if you got caught in the middle of those flares if you have Asthma like me. I'm pretty sure they'd affect my breathing.
Who cares? According to Ray, he's alright so that's all that matters.... Seriously though, are they really 'allowed' in Turkey or Sweden? If you can't even have a *** in a stadium these days good luck getting flares allowed....
Well I hope he or anyone else on here never suffers with it because you don't need flares to set it off.
I have COPD with only one lung functioning fully,and asthma,and those ones they use in Europe don’t affect me. Especially in the open air. Do you think absolutely no one in those crowds has asthma?
They’ve caused massive problems in Turkey, so were banned about ten years ago, but the fans there don’t seem to be paying much attention.
They have proposed banning them in Turkey. Still going off in Holland, Sweden, Greece, various Eastern European countries. Don’t know if smoking is banned in stadiums everywhere else. Just because we ban things doesn’t mean everyone else does. We don’t allow alcohol in the stadium but all over Europe you can take beer to your seats.
Just watching American Pickers.... stat came up... 9100 Americans were injured by fireworks in 2018 most with burns to their hands or face... Americans...
Kevin Miles, chief executive of the Football Supporters Federation (FSF), also supported the Governments warning, adding the FSF is looking to negotiate an amnesty with authorities so fans can hand in pyrotechnics without risk of banning orders. The majority of fans simply dont like flares. They burn at phenomenal temperatures and are potentially very dangerous things to have in a ground, he said. Smoke bombs arent especially popular as they can block your view of the action and cause breathing difficulties for some. Neither adds anything special to the atmosphere at games.
Now you're talking to me as if i'm naive, of course I don't think that but Asthma has different triggers to different people.
I think we need to distinguish between smoke bombs and flares, a smoke bomb is designed to produce smoke, they need a spark to set them off, I use them in my job testing flues, but they produce harmless smoke, a flare is a different animal entirely, this produces a flame that you could nearly weld with, over 1600 degrees, these are highly dangerous and are nearly impossible to buy in the UK, for good reason. The Cops said wrongly it was a flare, and all the press ran with it, the kid who threw it probably **** himself when it started up, and rather than chuck it under the seat, lobbed it, ****ing idiot rightly will get a ban, but let’s not hang him eh.
It would appear that 'fans' who bring pyrotechnics into football grounds don't know how to use them. Maybe there's a gap in training here and an h&s opportunity.
