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  1. Charon

    Charon Well-Known Member

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    as long as we're not Hull Turkeys and our nickname the Gobblers
     
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  2. RayVonn

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    Which cultural differences do you have reservations about?
     
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  3. Tigerite

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    Wouldn’t be the first time.
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  5. thetiger1966

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    Hiring a foreign manager with no experience of English Championship football is a risk
    Leonid Slutsky had an impressive record with CKSA Moscow & look how that turned out!!!
     
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  6. Shark Sports

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    If it's him, it's definitely a risk. But I can't read too much into win % without knowing the context behind each club and their predicament at the time.

    I assumed we'd have a foreign coach brought in, and no issue with that. But it's a massive risk. I'd have been tempted to bring Pulis in till the end of the season. I don't like him as a gaffer but he grinds out results and would keep us up. That would allow us to push on next year.
     
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    i was really hoping it would be one of the late november home games, 2 more games of boring rubbish too put up with, could be out of sight at the bottom by the time this new regime /manager buzz kicks in ....on the plus side Bristol game is my birthday , be a good present!
     
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  8. thetiger1966

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    agree, we are already in a relegation battle & need a manager who knows this division & can get us up the table ASAP ie Pulis, McCarthy, Wilder, Hughton
     
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  9. Idi Amin

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    This ^^^^^^ and only this ^^^^^^
     
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  10. TIGERSCAVE

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    As it stands Id rather be in a relegation scrap with Arveladze than a McCann
     
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  11. Tigerite

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    McCarthy who's just been sacked by Cardiff because they're basically in the **** along with us?.. No thank you!
     
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    I'd rather be in a relegation scrap with Coco the Clown, than McCann, because I just don't think he's trying to battle for points, which is what we need to do.
     
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    Terry ****wit from the Viz could do a better job than McCann.
     
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    I think a lot of people just pigeon hole all older English managers as relegation firefighters.
     
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  15. GLP

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    That’s because generally most of them have experience of getting clubs out of the ****. We’re up to our neck in **** and the life support help is some distance away.
     
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    Just thought i'd put this here.

     
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  17. Shark Sports

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    I think because foreign managers often play more attractive football and that's what clubs want. Clearly it's not always true though.

    As a country we also don't produce enough managers. I haven't looked recently but I know a few years ago the cost of obtaining a UEFA PRO license was miles higher in the UK than it os elsewhere in Europe.

    British managers seem to lack tactically too on the whole compared to their European counterparts. That might be as we don't produce enough coaches but leagues such as Serie A, always appear to be tactically miles ahead of our football.
     
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    Seems Arveladze has a son who's a footballer. Could be the Steve and Alex show all over again. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    It's a perception thing. Bruce was hated at Newcastle and Rafa loved but performance was the same.

    English managers just don't get the top opportunities, thats why they're not as successful. All experienced managers have successes and failures on their CV, but there is a status associated with having a foreign coach and that's the only real difference.
     
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  20. PLT

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    I think there's a lot of subconscious biases relating to nationality as well as other demographics. The Athletic shared some research the other day where someone found that showing a group of people a World Cup match between Senegal and Poland, a majority of people thought Senegal were "more physical and athletic" than Poland, but when they showed a group the exact same game but with the players rendered as anonymous figures with no skin colour or other identifying factors, the group found the opposite: that Poland were actually more physical. It seemed to suggest that a lot of people subconsciously thought of the team of black Africans as more athletic and physical, in line with the common stereotype. I know it's something I've thought I've perceived in the past when watching world cup games and such.

    I think something similar must surely apply to managers. No one ever really talks about it but there's an awful lot of pigeon holing of old white-haired English managers as all managing in the same way, defensive, boring, no flexibility etc. I remember when we appointed McCann people thought he was going to be ace. His record wasn't brilliant but he was young and I think for a lot of people that made him an exciting appointment. Meanwhile Bruce had us playing some great football at times but he's still seen by most as a dinosaur, boring football, defensive and so on.
     
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