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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

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    Why did you feel the need to post this?
     
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    Because in a strange way, Amess was prophesying his own death. And because without proper integration, you have no social cohesion. And that can be catastrophic, as we saw in 1930's Germany - and we are beginning to see in France now. Once a native population feels its culture is being stolen, it's a dangerous situation.
     
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    **** me, that's a bit of a stretch.
     
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    Sorry, are you saying that the situation in the U.K. today is similar, because of immigration, to Germany in the 1930s?
     
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    It may well be a prescient statement from the late MP.
     
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    No, definitely not, although lack of proper integration can foster extremism. I think France is closer to race problems than the UK, and next year we may see a pretty extreme right wing President in Zemmour.
     
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    The Office for Budget Responsibility calculates that Brexit will “reduce our long run GDP by around 4%”.

    By comparison, Coronavirus is estimated to have caused a short-term 2% reduction, over and above the effects of Brexit.

    One of these things happened to us, the other we chose.
     
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    Do you feel like your culture is being stolen? I don’t.
     
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    When the woke movement tries to erase rather than clarify history, abuse academics for reasonable beliefs, try to have them sacked etc, I feel it. But as I said in an earlier post, the problem is more acute in France where they have a larger and faster growing Muslim population.
     
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    So the French have opened with the first salvo in the Fishing wars by detaining a UK fishing vessel over night -

    Can we now sink their fleet
     
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    Who should we think is in the right regarding the fishing dispute? The French, or the nation that has openly stated that it is prepared to flout agreements that it has signed in good faith?

    This is all the Brextards have now.
     
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    All seems like a bit of a red herring.
     
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    The UK are following the Trade and Co operation Agreement to the letter. This is all about Macron and forthcoming French elections.
     
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    The UK says it's following the agreement and the French say differently. How do you know who's telling the truth? Why would anyone believe anything this government says?
     
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    The EU Commission has been overseeing the matter and has offered no support to France. Under the agreement, EU fishing boats have to prove historic fishing practices in UK waters to get a UK licence. Most have, and have got a licence. 55 French boats cannot provide any proof whatsoever and the suspicion is they are trying it on to get a licence.
     
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