I'd imagine that these young lads have seen the non existant pathway for them to get into the first team and thought **** it im away - i dont really think the powers that be warned any clubs off - i dont beleive for one minute the bollocks about us not being able to stop them. I think if they had made the effort and made the players aware of the pathway to the first team(like we seem to be doing now) they might well have stayed. Hugill for me would have played for our first team this year.
Seems a bit odd, is it point scoring? I'm not saying the guy is rubbish he seems to be doing fine but it'd be surprising if a team as wealthy as that and keen to spend were shopping at Sunderland.
Strange idea. I'd be very surprised if the Arabs had the remotest of interest in us for point scoring.They are not likely to see us as current rivals.It's highly likely that whoever is advising them is looking at the kind of set up that we're trying to establish,where good young players are brought through,and Dickman is someone who will surely know the local market. We mustn't make the mistake of assuming these people are simply going to chuck money without much care at this. They may spend to secure PL status in the short term,but have an entirely different approach to things longer term. They may come from a despicable regime,but there's nothing to say they're wasteful or stupid.
So presumably in your opinion Dickman is one of the best youth coaches in England? Can't see any other reason they'd want him if it's purely on merit. I'm not saying he isn't just that if he is it's news to me.
He's someone who knows the local market.....if I can call it that. To suggest they've engaged him to try to **** us up is nonsense.
I'd imagine he would have a very good knowledge of the local scene of players. Regardless of his coaching ability that knowledge will be helpful to newcastle.
He's not been hired to scout though he's been hired to coach, well that's if the rumour is correct. Local knowledge is a bonus but I'd imagine by far the most important aspect of being a coach is how well you can coach not how good your connections are. Has he done enough with us to make him a top target for a newly minted club? Doesn't seem like it to me but I guess you think otherwise.
Spot on mate. The time when I'll get really violently unhappy is if they come in with a huge,mega-money bid for Dan Neil.
Well,I take the point,but I'd assume if he's coaching young players,he's probably involved in the recruitment process. As I said,the Arabs may want a local lad in the youth set-up they may have been advised to establish....just as a start.
I wonder whose idea this is, being as they have no football hierarchy in place, and the new full time manager, when he arrives, could have someone completely different in mind for this role. Seems a bit odd to me.
I mean we brought Speakman in to overview all of this so if he goes I’m sure we have someone else. He’s done a good job. Several in the first team squad and several who got poached who’d be close of Donald hadn’t ****ed the setup. We will be serene either way. My confidence in the ownership is so high that I feel any setback will only lead to brighter things.
He’s the U23 manager. It’s more or less a senior role than a youth team role. He looks after younger professional players rather than the wider youth academy and setup. His role has nothing to do with local recruitment. His job is purely to coach and manage the players at the level below the first team.
I am surprised more people arent bothered by this. Seems the fella in charge of getting u23s ready for the first team is off and many shrug their shoulders. Lets not forget lads like Neil have been coached by him and for me, is our best player. We have others showing how close they are in the cup this season and 1 or 2 out on loan to get the next experience ahead of hopefully coming back to our first team squad. We have a quality set of lads in that group progressing all the time and a large part of that will be this fella. We might well get someone in as good knowing our new mgt team, but I'd personally rather not have the disruption of someone learning our way of playing. I would be surprised if Johnson wasnt keen for him to stay...
bloody hell, can see there being hell on here mind..steve bruce was only here for the twinkling of an eye compared to this lad and they could not wait to get rid of him...i can honestly say if ashley had made this appointment the sheets would already be out.
It’s disappointing but not the end of the world. I don’t think it’s that big a deal. The academy set up will be better than it was a year ago with or without him. No one individual is important.
i personally think he has done a decent job, must be doing something right if our players were being picked up by the 'bigger clubs'...maybe the first part of a 'money talks' type saga, ie: big enough wedge and all morals feck off out the window.
Have to disagree mate. Lots of individuals are important. This role, from a coaching perspective, is critical in my opinion and based on outcomes he is doing a good job. Any organisation that has staff doing a good job should be gutted to lose them as replacing good people is disruptive and fraught with risk. Obviously he isnt indespensible but I still maintain it is a significant blow. Hopefully we have a natural successor within the setup, at least that will minimise disruption, unless of course he takes a few people with him. I realise this is a price to pay for success, but lets not underestimate the loss.
