I don't really think its a case of him turning things round really. If we get through the winter without a massive Covid spike and things get back to relative normality with an improvement in the economy he'll be regarded with neutrality. Anything better than that and he may well be remembered as being a success. Most of those things are largely out of his control. Like I said in my other post, the perspective that he's viewed from in the future won't be the same as the one he's viewed from now.
I would normally now question your sanity for not recognising Labour, but unfortunately due to their own infighting and bozo turning politics into a popularity contest which would give strictly a run for its money, there's no hope for us all... Image of bozo doing the cha cha chasing some young nubile fit blond sends shivers down my spine...
We’re about to spike - even his health minister announced it - and I disagree on other stuff being out of his control. The version of Brexit was his version, fair taxation, social cohesion not to mention Covid. All things he has negatively contributed to in my view and is negatively contributing to.
Saddens me this. It’s the reason why more people should be more involved This is worth a read https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/our-work/research/democratic-repair/
You're right, we may well have a spike. I would have said that the factors that contribute to a healthy economy go far beyond the scope of any Prime Minister. I think, a bit like football managers, we ascribe both too much blame and too much credit to Prime Ministers. But all of that it is beside the point that I was making, which is that our view of him now is not necessarily going to be the same as history's view of him. That will be from a totally different perspective and will be viewed through various different prisms that we don't have the benefit of now.
sadly, this is what we, as a people, have been doing for decades...'they were crap, try the others' when the others are always either labour or conservatives, then they turn out to be crap and so it continues, we accept all the bullsh1t in the hope that at some point we might even benefit from one political party but it never happens, never has happened and never will happen. take note when things start to get a wee bit rough for one of the parties, some massive news will 'happen' then get swept under the carpet once it has served it's purpose.
But countries like Italy, who were ridiculed, have made a better fist of it. They have various borders whereas we're an island with a natural barrier. Yet we're hurtling towards another lockdown and allowing holiday flights to all kinds of places. The government aren't wearing masks and people can't get booster jabs. Hindsight is one thing but people are warning, now, that we're heading towards another crisis. I'm far from being an expert but the government seem to be totally blasé about all this.
That's democracy for you. We could try something else but everyone got all funny about the feudal system.
aye, we were also canny jealous of new zealand, then australia at one point or another...fact is that no single country has yet managed to come out of this and at one point europe were demanding we share our vaccines as they had p1ssed about too much they were lagging behind. this is here long term marra, another way to kill a few more of the population off...i'm still expecting a war kicking off.
I was down in the lake district last week. Mask wearing indoors up here in Scotland is about 80/20 wearing v not wearing. Down there it was the other way round. It might be a coincidence, but it doesn't feel like one.
From the dirty diggers tory supporting Times (again). Bonko and chums have not learnt the lessons from the last 18 months about taking measures to prevent the NHS getting overwhelmed and more unnecessary deaths. Take action now!
Some people keep saying 'ah yes hindsight is a wonderful thing'. But people are calling for action now. The example being set by the Leader of the House of Commons is disgraceful and his comments ludicrous. The public need to be told that masks, in crowded indoor spaces, will slow this rapid increase in infections ... ... not that you're safe if you know people ffs. I'm sick of being told 'this is a global problem and we're better than many countries' ... ... we're on our way to another Messy Christmas the way things are going.
I know I am be getting old, but it was only a few short weeks ago, that a parliamentary committee headed by the tory Jeremy H(c)unt, slammed their colleagues in being slow to act, causing deaths.
We could try PR as a form of democracy. I’d change the voting system to make it less likely one party dominates, create more need for consensus and negotiation and reduce the risk of government by ideology. We have to make democracy work better. A commission should decide on our democratic type not the existing government who will by nature retain their power.
I used to think PR might be the answer. Then I saw how parliament went on over Brexit. There would be a similar paralysis, with nobody willing to vote for anything.
I didn't learn one thing from the start of the Brexit campaign to the end tbh. Whatever was said, as fact, was instantly and totally contradicted by other 'facts'. We're stuck with electing someone and keeping our fingers crossed they don't do more harm than good.
Parliament certainly learned a lesson. Refuse to be reasonable for long enough and the electorate will also refuse to be reasonable first time they get a chance to. How different it could have been if someone had been willing to get out of their trench during the indicative votes.
I'm not keen in PR because, as I understand the system, you would not be able to return your local MP in the same way that you can now. A friend of mine, from Poland, who lives here showed me his election form a couple of years ago for his postal vote. They use PR in Poland (the d'Hondt system apparently) and the form was pages and pages in length and was very complicated. Rather than improving the system I think it would just lead to increased voter apathy.
