I read that Morocco has suspended flights to/from UK because of covid rates here. This is what will happen more and more if rates here don't come down. If mask-wearing, social distancing and hand sanitisation is the price to pay to get our infection rate down I'm all for it. Just out of interest, new cases, 7-day average as of now: France 4k Spain 1k Portugal <1k Italy 2k Belgium 3k Netherlands 3k Germany 11k UK 43k !!! I was in France last month, people wear masks in crowded places, restaurants ask to see a covid pass, social distancing is in place. We were visiting French friends and family, they don't like all these measures any more than anyone else does but they reckon if it helps keep infections down and prevents lockdown measures being re-introduced it is a price worth paying. And if the figures above are anything to go by it's working.
The long term goal should be to get rid of the frigger, so yes it's a price worth paying all day long. I'm off to a gig in November, one of my anti vax mates (ugh) cancelled because he was kicking off about potential vaccine passports being in place. What did he expect? We're going to be in a mosh pit, throwing others around and headbanging surrounded by thousands of others, they might want to check if he's susceptible to covid...
I don't disagree with the leading scientists, epidemiologists, virologists etc. regarding the virus. But as someone who is double-jabbed, and lives in a household of people who are all double-jabbed, and everyone I know who I come into close-contact with on a daily basis are double-jabbed, I'm willing to take risk of not wearing a mask during a full working day in an office of 5 other people who are more than six feet away from me. I'll wear one in a shop because it's not for long. If someone who refuses to get the vaccine and refused to wear a mask at all during the pandemic gets covid and is really badly with it, or worse, croaks, that's their own fault for being a crackpot. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
But you need to normalise that data…% of positives v tests. Just looking at one aspect is misleading. At one stage we were testing 500k a day, no idea where we are now. But no where in Europe did that volume
Are many more people dying and getting hospitalised? Genuinely can’t be arsed too look myself but surely that is the most important thing ,
But why? Being double jabbed doesn't stop you getting covid, it just potentially reduces the symptoms (it doesn't even do that in some cases). At the end of the day, it is down to you and I wouldn't dream of telling anybody what to do with their life, never, but by the same token, I'll never understand why people would take a risk when there's a safer alternative that's just mildly more annoying but much more safe.
Because the leading scientists, epidemiologists, virologists told us it reduces symptoms. Otherwise, why bother getting vaccinated at all if it did next to **** all? Every time I step into a car, there's a risk I'll die or be seriously maimed in a collision, but it doesn't stop me getting in cars. I just wear my seatbelt.
Because you have no natural immunity to this disease. Your body needs help fighting it, if there's nothing there, it's going to get battered. The vaccine gives it antibodies to help, but it's not a cast iron guarantee it'll totally fight it off or prevent you getting seriously ill. You can not get vaccinated, in which case you're leaving it up to nature and that probably won't end well. You can get vaccinated, which increases your chances but isn't a guarantee. You can get vaccinated and wear a mask, socially distance etc, which increases your chances of being healthy even more because you've less chance of exposure in the first place.
I can also wear a belt and braces to stop my pants from slipping down, or wrap myself in bubble wrap every time I leave the house to reduce the risk of getting a bruise.
Is a bruise going to give you the long term health effects that Covid does? I assume you don't consider a virus that's killed millions to be on par with a bruise from falling over?
As a society, it's the complete opposite, it's not been taken anywhere nearly as seriously as it should have been from the beginning. Ah well.
Dunno. Never had covid. Did knacker my elbow badly when I slipped on the ice earlier this year. I guess I should never leave the house ever again to prevent me slipping in the future.
Or, you'll be more careful having slipped on the ice and will take measures to prevent that from happening again. Likewise, if you see somebody in the area you slipped in, you'd probably want to warn them that it's slippery so they don't get hurt (unless it's not that bad and it's hilarious watching them). You could just stay inside and never go out again, but much like Covid, that would be a grossly extreme and unnecessary response.
Ok, line up 100 random people. Without talking to them, you tell me which ones are vulnerable, which ones have been jabbed, which ones are infected and which ones have already have it.
I have taken precautions regarding covid though. I've got the vaccine and wear a mask when I feel like it, usually in shops. But I won't wear one at work for a full shift. I've done my own risk assessment and weighed the likelihood vs severity, as Chelsea said.
