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Off Topic The constant threat to society.

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by invermeremike, Oct 16, 2021.

  1. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    RR.
    You bought this.
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  2. realred1952

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    A difficult one! I often wonder how the "life means life" or those that have to stay incarcerated until after they are 65 really cope. penned up for 40 years it must be a terrible strain on their mental health? say, 66 years old and released tomorrow! served 40 years last thing you saw in reality was euro 80's football, olympics boycotted, regan beats carter and lennon killed etc etc population has doubled, electric cars ... probably most of all infrastructure is completely different in vast areas....
    And how different shops are and what they sell and how they sell it!!!
    I dont really rate carte blanche capital punishment, but a few cases I might turn a blind eye..........
     
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  3. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Surely if you felt the right to revoke British citizenship to that cow Begum then isn't it time to reel the undesirables in for review? Choudry is a prime example of the scum that has invaded your shores and it hurts me to think you offered a safe haven to them, or their parent,s and get paid back by atrocities. When is the government going to wake up?
     
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  4. Red Robin

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    The muslin world is invading Europe and governments are allowing it to happen.

    They do not believe in Christianity-they don't treat life like we do. They don't and will not accept our way of life. They are here to try and take over-Enoch was correct our roads and streets will be filled with blood.
     
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  5. Red Robin

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    If I have taken a life then I would deserve it.

    The scum that kill and main and rape and torture only to be back on the streets doing it again within a few years it is so wrong.

    The problem is the people at the top molly coddlers who give the sentences need removing from there positions.
     
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  6. Jiffie

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    Talking about hanging and victims.

    Recently the copper in London was quite rightly given a whole life sentence for killing Sarah Everard, a couple of weeks earlier Colin Pitchfork the double rapist and murderer of 2 teenage girls in Leicestershire was released on parole, given the clarion call about women's safety how the f*** was that allowed to happen? why does a double rapist and murderer even get close to parole?, especially one who because of his scheming almost got away with it?. Do our judiciary and parole boards not keep up with current events FFS, how was Pitchfork not given a whole life tariff and how the f*** was he allowed parole?

    So my question to you would be given your implied opposition to hanging, would you volunteer to have somebody like Pichfork or other recent high profile parolees like baby murderer Beverley Allitt living next door to you or close to you? and the answer is that you and I would not know if that was the case anyway, because of the anonymity and new lives these people are afforded and often it's too late when they reoffend, yes it might be a low percentage but I am sure that offers absolutely no solace to the friends and family of any victims, in the same way that it is a low percentage of radicalised muslims that carry out terrorist attacks in our/their country.
     
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  7. AshtonRed

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    Il take that as a no then
     
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  8. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I wasn’t being serious. Trouble is too many innocent people hanged.
     
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  9. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    One wrong person hanged outweighs all the points in my veiw
     
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  10. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    A question for you to answer honestly. If you, or a loved one were wrongly found guilty and sentenced to be hung would you still be in favour of it ?
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    I think the answer would be whether guilty or wronged you wouldnt be!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  12. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    When politicians allow virtually unfettered immigration they will claim that it will add to the cultural mix of the country but if you look around the world it more often than not creates ethic ghettos that will never merge in to general society. Specific areas will become singular in their ethic mix and culture with very little, if any, willingness to become part of British culture or for some to even learn the language. Isn't it about time that the government made up new rules surrounding the right to British citizenship and also the rules that would take away that right for certain people who undermine the laws and public safety of the country that gave them, or their parents, safe haven from whatever? When I heard that a specific health authority had to employ almost 20 interpreters to handle the non-English speaking patients at local hospitals I was absolutely gobsmacked and angry and that's why I think it's time for a reboot on the subject.

    The offspring of immigrants need to be held strictly accountable for their actions, even if they hold citizenship, and should they fall afoul of the terrorism laws or other serious offences the entire family should be placed under scrutiny and face possible deportation back to their origins. Are newly minted arrivals given any kind of restrictions or are they allowed to run amok without redress because if they are then there's your problem in a nutshell? The rules have changed over here but when I arrived I was classed as a "landed immigrant" and had to wait at least 5 years before I could claim full citizenship and if, during that time, I committed any criminal offence then I and my family could have been deported back to my homeland.

    The U.K. has become a dumping ground for the waste that the rest of Europe doesn't want and if you add in the African component to the mix then the size and manageability becomes even more unlikely to ever be resolved. For my sins I watch ITV News at ten most days and the daily savagery on the streets with the usual religious maniacs with knives makes me wonder if what I am actually watching could possibly be from England. The seeming apathy from subsequent governments have allowed this untenable situation to arise but unfortunately the people of the country have just sat on their asses without complaint which has only made the situation worse by saying that it will all work out on the day.

    In hindsight I truly believe that although some of these immigrants might have legitimate reasons for arriving on your shores there is an even larger proportion that came for the free meal and not the glorious weather. Any reasonable and sane approach to this national threat has long since disappeared down the toilet and how long is it before the rest of Britishness sinks below the waves never to reappear? Rule Brittaniastan.
     
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    So, you would be happy to have Colin Pitchfork - in his new guise - living next to you?
     
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  14. AshtonRed

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    I noticed you didn’t answer my question, What we do with violent criminals is another debate , make sure they are locked away safely would be my preferred option. At least if later we find the conviction was faulty they aren’t dead.
     
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  15. wizered

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    I totally agree with this.
     
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  16. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Blimey , Adolf had nothing on you !!
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    Next you’ll be saying gas em all
     
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  17. Reliant Robin TC2

    Reliant Robin TC2 Well-Known Member

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    You didn’t ask a question of anyone, let alone me. You made a statement.
    I asked you a question that you haven’t answered!
     
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  18. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Your question wasn’t sensible , I pointed out that I would make sure they were locked away safely, in which case they wouldn’t be living next door to anyone. My question which I asked was if you or a loved one was wrongly convicted to be hung would you still be in favour of hanging ?

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    Several others answered the question and Wiz commented he agreed with making sure they were locked away safely so if later on the conviction was proven wrong they’d still be alive.
     
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  19. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Was I a bit heavy for you Ashton?
     
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  20. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    We should arm Border Force, who yesterday or the day before considered the English Channel to be too rough for them to patrol in their multi million pound cutters, yet several dinghies made it across from France, and one sailed straight into Dover harbour. Cheeky bastards !

    So Border Force, that we pay for (along with the immigrants for a mere £4.2Bn a year and rising daily), bravely left the job of rescuing illegal immigrants to the volunteers of the RNLI !!

    Rather than turning the boats back, train loaded rifles on the person steering the craft and force them to turn around. If not, shoot.

    We live in a world of unimaginable technology, especially surveillance, where armies can fire a missile hundreds of miles and know, within a metre, where it's going to land, but we can't detect and stop a few rubber dinghies from reaching British waters full of undesirables. That's utter crap.

    Get off your fat ass Boris, stop rattling on about heat pumps that the majority of us don't give a toss about, and do your real job, which is securing our borders and keeping danger away from British people, before concentrating on the existing danger within our country that you and previous governments have allowed to fester in Britain. You'd think the assassination of Sir David Ames would be the wake up call that the Tories and Parliament (except Diane Abbot and David Lammy) needed to actually do something rather than talk bullshit and say how tough we're going to get, but still do nothing of substance.

    Every single atrocity carried out on British soil over the past 20 years has been down to Islamic extremists.

    Crap like this will cost you the next election, or possibly your job before that, and rightly so.
     
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