I've extracted this bit from an article on the BBC website. "The current tribunal system used when the buying and selling club cannot agree a fee for the transfer of a player aged under 17 will be replaced by a set of fixed prices. The new price tariffs will see a selling club paid £3,000 per year for every year of a player's development between the ages of nine and 11. The fee per year from 12 to 16 will depend on the selling club's academy status but ranges between £12,500 and £40,000." Now in my eyes that's going to kill the academies of Football League clubs that depend on producing top talent to use in the first team and then if needed, sell on to help financially. Now don't get me wrong perhaps I'm not reading it properly and maybe someone can enlighten me, but could this then mean for example that if another player on the same level as say Chamberlain comes through an academy and their current club values them at a price of say £10m and the buying club feels the value is not worthy and therefore leads to the new price tariffs coming into place, the selling club would only receve a few £100k if that...? Am I reading and understanding that correctly? Because if that's the case, clubs in the same position as say Southampton were when they needed to sell Bale/ Walcott etc will get a pathetic amount of money (in football terms ofcourse!) which does them no favours as not only are they losing a potential top player but receiving a sum that will in fairness, not benefit them at all financially. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15381652.stm - that's the full article there if anyone's interested.
That's just blackmail. It's ****ing disgusting. Edit: Don't start sentences with swear words or the first letter can't be a capital, apparently. Weird.
It's going to kill the game in my eyes, at least for clubs below the Prem. How on earth will they have a chance of promotion if: 1. They lose a promising player. 2. The money received is nowhere near enough to help them compensate by bringing in a replacement or further investing into the youth development to help produce more... Amazed the Football League allowed this.
I totally agree. What is the £5m for at the moment? Is that £5m per club? If not, then it barely seems worth it and surely an alternative would be to keep it as it is, let the Prem withdraw its paltry £5m and then make back that £5m by the FL clubs having to give a percentage of academy transfer fees. Anything over the £5m could go into a fund for wages for struggling clubs (eg, Plymouth)
Well the most stupid idea ever,just another way of making those at the top richer and those at the other end of the spectrum not bother developing the young players.So in the end we never find our best players unless the top teams try harder to make their own talent.Which in turn has an adverse effect on the lower league teams who help the youngsters in their infancy.Which beggars the question will the lower end clubs bother?
Ridiculous. It could actually lead to small clubs spending as much, or more, on developing a young prospect as they receive in the fee for him. As has been said, nothing short of blackmail. It should be left to a free market system. i.e. a willing buyer, & a willing seller agree a price. In cases where a fee cannot be agreed, it should go to independant arbitration, to set a fair price.
Exactly Pat, why on earth should a club invest so much time and effort to produce a potential star when all they'll get is peanuts in return. Absolute joke.
the people who set these rules and make these decisions,where do they come from,it seems they haven't got the brains they were born with
We're one of the clubs that would probably benefit from the ruling and this is universal condemnation from our fans. Imagine what it's like from the fans of a club like Southampton or Crewe.
On reflection, isn't that what sort of happens in Spain, all the best youngsters get fast-tracked to Barca and Real. You could say the same for South America aswell I suppose, there again I've no idea how this affects grass roots football abroad.
TBH, I'm not sure what the rules are here - or if there are any. We all know that Barca have La Masia, which produces some fine talent. But, you're right about everything being slanted towards Barca & Real. They negotiate their own TV rights, to start with. This alone gives them a massive financial advantage as the majority of fans here support one or the other.
Maybe we English are too sentimental. My point was look at the success of the countries and the quality of the players produced that adopt that ethos. We haven't got anywhere near the depth of talent other countries have imo. They're enjoying the fruits of getting youngsters in front of quality coaching at a top club sooner, rather than wasting time at acadamies which lets face it apart from the odd exception, are full of people you've never heard of, or those who can't get a job at a top club. So who's right and who's wrong ? I find myself questioning my first reaction.
Good to see that Premier League supporters are against the greed of their chairmen! It's not as bad for us as you might think. We have one of the top-rated academies, a magnet for a growing number of young players and their parents, and have no need to sell the product any more. We HAD to sell Walcott, Bale, Surman etc cheaply, but were content to sell a restless Chamberlain for £12m +. None of these players were still in the academy. I'm sure we might lose the occasional prospect, but would gain some from smaller academies too. Having said that, I agree that the situation stinks, regardless of whether it hurts us or helps us. All the Saints fans on our site seem to be of the same opinion.
Well, when it comes to developing home grown talent, the Spanish, and Barca in particular seem to be way ahead. It can't really be anything other than the standard, and methods, of training, as opposed to the way it's done in the U.K. As Ensil said, with very few exceptions, how many top foreign clubs come trying to sign young English prospects?
