The UK has recorded 137,000+ deaths to date. 2,000 per million deaths. Australia has recorded 1421 deaths to date. 55 per million deaths.
yea but we had unvaccinated illegal dinky divers, 17.800 this year so far and 9,000 last year we couldn't exactly shoot them
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...ndora-papers-as-the-super-richs-cash-rolls-in Murky financial dealings, Blair and the Tories involved.
I don't think that's right. Boris Johnson absolutely nailed the EU when it came to procurement of vaccines and getting us underway with our vaccinations. We left the rest of Europe trailing in our wake which meant we were able to come out of lockdowns and start our recovery quicker. That's all that mattered, at the end of the day. It's a bit hollow other countries thinking they're doing better now with higher vaccination numbers. That is irrelevant now that the worst of it is over. We had them at the crucial time when it mattered. Thanks to Boris Johnson.
Probably the biggest pile of ****e that has been said on this thread so far and that certainly takes some doing.
Turkey, Germany, France, etc, are above us. In which was are we the best on the planet, as you said. https://www.statista.com/statistics...ccine-doses-administered-by-county-worldwide/
IMHO what did Johnston get right.. well he struck lucky with Astra Zenica/Oxford vaccine and worked hard in getting it in arms although not as well as some other comparable countries. IMHO what did he get wrong.. Was slow to realise Covid19 was serious, the fool even caught it badly himself, the nurse who cared for him has subsequently quit in disgust for being used in publicity. Did not take note of his own government's 'war-gaming' of such a virus, which was always likely to be a respiratory one. Which strongly advised to have high stocks of PPE, they were actually running stocks down to save money. To ensure PPE could be produced in the UK, they didn't, but threw money at their mates, who produced substandard kit. This was a big failure. Also to have a large number of ventilators and ICU beds not to run hospitals at full capacity as a pandemic would push other serious people out. This was a big failure. To close borders and have a test track and trace system in place. Well our 'World beating system' cost billions, mainly to his mates, and London was hit first as those rich skiers etc coming in brought the virus with them. This was a big failure. The war gamed report made special mention of Care Homes, as the elderly were more vulnerable to respiratory diseases. This is many ways was probably the biggest failures. As the residents in care homes were decimated. To end on a better note, IMHO the heros of this pandemic were the NHS medics and staff, who worked long hours, often exhausted, often catching the virus. Without them god knows what would have happened! Even fat Bonko stood outside no 10, applauding them... of course he has richly rewarded them for their efforts...not. I certainly reckon our number of deaths per capita is relatively poor compared to similar countries. Undoubtedly someone can put the stats up.
As of 30th September, here you go. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
It makes you wonder if countries such as France reported the same way as the UK just how high up the list they would go. France don't record deaths at home in their figures. Nice way to keep the numbers down... 'In England and Germany, around a third of all deaths associated with COVID-19 have been in care homes and the proportion is even greater in France and Portugal. Moreover, deaths at home associated with COVID-19 are not included in the reporting systems of all countries (e.g. France).' 'COVID-19 is a statutory ‘notifiable disease’ and as such there is a legal requirement for a medical practitioner to report suspected cases of COVID-19 to the relevant public authorities. In France however the legislative framework for reporting suspected cases of COVID-19 differs from that for other infectious diseases. In all countries medical practitioners are required to provide information on suspected or confirmed cases of COVID-19 to the relevant public authorities, but in the case of France, this regulation may not be adhered to by all categories of doctor.' 10-20-Anne-West.pdf (lse.ac.uk)
It’s also been said that 25% of deaths have had nothing to do with Covid just that they had died within 28 days of testing positive.
Interesting, that. I see they conclude that international comparisons are essentially meaningless until further work is done on it. I think I read somewhere that that was something to do with statistical adjustment, although I'm not really sure I understood what was being said completely.
We have saved years at the end of the vulnerable and elderly's lives but cost the best part of two years from the beginning, the middle, and the end of many's lives. Australia definitely can't be held up as a massive success next to anywhere else. The country did well in locking down but handled vaccines, the roll-out and the communication around it horrendously. Our lockdowns have been a massive joke in Victoria. The official reported numbers don't do it justice given most of the time we have been out if them we have been severely restricted to the point of being practically locked down.
