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Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

Discussion in 'Watford' started by andytoprankin, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Bolton's Boots

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    Dominic Raab - the UK deputy Prime Minister and, apparently, holder of a Master's degree from Jesus College, Cambridge. <doh>

     
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  2. Bolton's Boots

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    What I can't understand is why, in spite of the constant exposure of this sort of government corruption, nothing ever gets done about it.

    https://fb.watch/8uka4Gj38Q/
     
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  3. Toby

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    They 'got Brexit done', guarantees them approx 30% of the voting public. Corbyn was apparently the 2nd coming of Hitler, the internet is full of people still ranting about him. Their attacks definitely worked well, it'll take a decade at least to get through this.

    The main problem is that the Brexit vote dragged out a load of new voters with no clue about politics and a serious lack of analytical skills, they now treat politics as a football match (we won/you lost) and have chosen their side.

    The UK is ****ed.
     
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  4. oldfrenchhorn

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    For too long people seem to think that Johnson is going to lead the country to a new promised land of milk and honey. Finally the BBC is starting to be more critical of the speeches he makes, and providing a bit more background to his noise. Newsnight seems to be less afraid to point at the reality of what is happening and producing some factual items, as this one.

     
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  5. Bolton's Boots

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    I think I get that - but in saying "nothing ever gets done" I really meant legally. The Good Law Project do their bit by taking the Government to court, but to what end? The Supreme Court seems to be in their pockets.
     
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    Hard facts about inward investment starting to be made plain.

    The boss of Intel says the US chipmaker is no longer considering building a factory in the UK because of Brexit.

    Intel is investing up to $95bn (£70bn) on opening and upgrading semiconductor plants in Europe over the next 10 years, as well as boosting its US output.

    But while Mr Gelsinger said the firm "absolutely would have been seeking sites for consideration" in the UK, he said Brexit had changed this.
     
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  7. Bolton's Boots

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    Another Brexit Benefit. You might say that, having already cost us the fish, it's now costing us the chips too...
     
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    Le est désormais obligatoire pour tous les supporters âgés de plus de 12 ans. So if you are 12 years old you will have to have a pass sanitaire if you wish to go and watch Chateauroux play at home tonight. 12 year olds are being told in England that the vaccine will be available for them at the end of November or early December. Could this have something to do with the UK having ten times the number of new cases more than we are seeing?
     
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  9. Bolton's Boots

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    Hopefully no-one is offended by this - a Twitter thread created by a branch of the SNP - but the content, not the source, is the reason I'm posting it.

    BBC Question Time isn't exactly popular viewing across Scotland for a variety of reasons, but last night's episode was remarkable viewing - not the least because the normal carefully hand-picked audience apparently revolted.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1446421664573579266.html?
     
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    I don't watch it these days, but there has been plenty of comment around. What happens now is my thought about how they select an audience. Fiona Bruce was really shocked to find that not a single person in the room had anything good to say about Brexit apart from the government minister. Will the audience now be selected to represent current feelings, or will they still want to use 2016 as their yardstick?
     
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    I think they will simply resort to what they do when the show is broadcast from Scotland - stack the audience with members who they know as they have previously been 'randomly selected'. Although the BBC claim it doesn't happen, I know of at least six people who have regularly appeared in the audience - one of them even brings his mother along to sit next to him whenever he appears - and of course the political allegiance of each lies with the Tory party. At least three of those are in an organisation called Scotland in Union, whose members get paid to have letters published in newspapers across Scotland - letters designed to give misleading impressions about life in Scotland under the SNP.
     
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  12. Bolton's Boots

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    £37bn and this is the best they can do?

    Bloody criminal.<grr>

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    Unfortunately, that just about sums things up.
     
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    Ministers are being warned of a mounting workforce crisis in England’s hospitals as they struggle to recruit staff for tens of thousands of nursing vacancies, with one in five nursing posts on some wards now unfilled.

    Hospital leaders say the nursing shortfall has been worsened by a collapse in the numbers of recruits from Europe, including Spain and Italy. The number of nurses from the European Economic Area joining the Nursing and Midwifery Council register has fallen more than 90%, from 9,389 in the year to 31 March 2016 to 810 in the year to 31 March 2021.

    What has the country done to itself?
     
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    I refer the Right Honourable Gentleman to the conclusion of a previous answer:
     
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    I listened to that too. Just wrong.
     
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    This morning’s headlines probably won’t make for pretty reading for the Government and their experts regarding the early handling of the pandemic.

    Mind you there is praise for the vaccine roll out.

    Credit to the organisers, scientists and NHS for their work on that .

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58876089
     
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    This governments response was appalling, NHS staff gave everything they could, 1,500 lost their lives. Government mixed messaging from the start was confusing and caused chaos. PPE failures were shocking. 20,000 lives could have been saved if the government has locked down a week earlier. “Ministers began by promising the test and trace system would be ‘world-beating’ in May 2020 when the truth was that it was that it was a laggard,” it said of the system, which had a budget of £37 bn.

    It is easy to look back now and see that the warnings about herd immunity were way off the mark, that contracts being handed out were suspicious to say the least and that the experts gave advice that was not followed for political reasons. Yet today a government minister refuses to say sorry, we got anything wrong.
    The worst part of this however is that lessons have not been learnt, and while government issue messages that it is over, numbers of new cases are 40,000 a day. This will have an effect, or should that be is having an effect, on the ability of the bed and staff starved resources to deal with people who are in danger from the virus, as well as those waiting for life saving treatments of other illnesses.
     
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    Grant Shapps, in his wisdom or lack thereof, quite possibly only objected to HGV drivers having a tea break.
     
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