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Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

Discussion in 'Watford' started by andytoprankin, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. NZHorn

    NZHorn Well-Known Member

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    I see that Patel is resisting the move to allow butchers to be allowed to come to the UK to work so that there is enough pork for Christmas. Am I correct in assuming that she doesn't celebrate Christmas?
     
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    I think she is a Hindu, so probably doesn't celebrate it as a religious festival - just participates in the same way as many others.

    Odd that she should be a Hindu though - one of the teachings of that faith is acceptance of others, not one of her strong points. It's possible too that she doesn't eat fowl or salted pork - so may not give two hoots about the lack of turkeys and butchers.
     
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    I would contend she is a Christian, on the assumption that Hindu temples do not have belfries, and I believe Ms Patel spends her nights hung upside down in them.
     
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    Deborah Meaden summed up one of the problems simply.

    We have an ageing population and we are beginning to see the problems that causes when fewer young people try to support ever more retirees. Immigration is a major tool in smoothing that out. And we just turned the tap off.
     
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    Spot on Mark, it is still a danger. It should worry people that politicians are talking about it in the past tense as though it is all over. There are more new cases in the UK in a single day than neighbouring countries are seeing in a week, and those countries are still bearing down on it.
     
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  10. Bolton's Boots

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    Liz Truss actually had the temerity to write this in yesterday's Sunday Times.

    "When we say we will do something we do it: we follow the rules."

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    I thought the above was bad enough, but this barely 24 hours later is beyond belief: "Lord Frost draws up plans to replace the Northern Ireland Protocol." Perhaps I'm wrong, but I do think that said Protocol is a legally binding international treaty - where on earth does "we follow the rules" fit into his plans? Not to mention "the UK is hugely trusted...people know we are reliable"...

    https://archive.is/coHzL
     
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    I find this quite chilling. I cannot believe that a PM of the UK would have such low regard for human life.
     
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  14. Bolton's Boots

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    A couple of days old this - but am just posting it to give some context to the following response to it from a friend:

    Last Tuesday, my wife and I were together celebrating our 30th wedding anniversary.
    Last Thursday, we were together in a consultant cancer surgeon's office, discussing surgery and radiotherapy options to treat
    - sorry, that's beat - her cancer.
    On Friday, we were watching Boris Johnson saying - and this is a verbatim quote: "Never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes, look at wage growth".

    There simply are no words to adequately describe how I feel about this. Nor for many, many others, I suspect. I've lost my mother to this disease; my wife has lost hers. I've lost an aunt, an uncle, and several dear friends. My own family has the BRCA1/BRCA2 mutation, which wildly increases cancer risk (breast cancer risk is over 70%). The mutation is now infamous for prompting women such as Angelina Jolie to get preventative mastectomies, rather than face cancer as a practical inevitability.

    Boris doesn't want me to worry about my wife's cancer outcome or life expectancy, though; he wants me to look in delight at my wage growth. Which I haven't seen. And would have been more than swallowed up by inflation just at the grocery checkout, anyway. It'd be gone many times over by price rises at the fuel pump, energy prices, rent increases, etc., etc.
    There are very few people for whom I've felt a visceral loathing. I've known many 'mean' people, but most have been damaged in some way, either by mental illness, TBI or some other cause, and were more to be pitied than hated. But Boris is more than intelligent enough to know exactly what he's doing. He just doesn't care. If poor people had the same cancer survival rates as rich people in the UK, 19,000 more people would be alive, every year. He's killing people, and he knows that we know it, but that just doesn't rate with him. "Whaddya gonna do about it?"

    Please Scotland - save us from his like. Our NHS, on practically any metric, runs better than its equivalent south of the border. And with a leader there telling people not to worry about cancer outcomes, is it any wonder? Why do so many Scots need to die, to satisfy some pathetic ideological need for unionism? And how many have to die, before the unionists say, 'Enough!'?
     
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    Have the English lost their marbles? Surely questions should be asked, yet it has gone very quiet.

    Latest new cases of Covid.

    UK 33,869

    Germany 4,507
    Italy 1,062
    France 1,138
    Portugal 193
    Holland 1,624
    Spain 4,271
     
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  17. oldfrenchhorn

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    There was a man on LBC today trying to feed himself and two daughters, 13 & 10 years old, on £25 per week. While he was talking a smoke alarm went off that he said needed a new battery. That £1 would have to come out of the food budget. As a MP under some circumstances you can claim £25 per day for food.
     
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    Perhaps he should examine the training , experience workload and responsibilities of a GP and compare them with those of being an MP before making such an utterly stupid crass ( but typically Tory) remark.
     
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    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In the UK farmers are having to slaughter pigs because since Brexit there are insufficient vets and butchers to put them into the food chain, driving farmers to ruin. Not to worry as the market is now being flooded with cheap German pork, and there are no customs arrangements in place still to control the imports. What a total mess!

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=sfeu
     
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  20. Bolton's Boots

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    I thought MPs had a breakfast allowance of £35 per day?

    I can sympathise with that guy. Way back in the early 70s in Australia, I was unemployed for about three weeks - an experience I never wanted to repeat. At the time, the dole was $12 per week - my rent was $10 per week, leaving not very much to Iive on. For the entire time, I existed on 20¢ worth of chips per day and treated myself to a piece of fish once a week with the remaining 60¢. No tea, coffee or beer, no money for petrol so walked everywhere whilst looking for work - not fun in a Queensland summer. I swore to myself I'd never let it happen again.
     
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