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If I’d have seen it I wouldn’t have asked for the source of this ‘all of science’ comment.

Amazed you won’t produce it.

 

Themselves. If they're deemed switched on enough to make the decision then they don't need parental consent.

See teenage girls going on the pill as an example.

I'm with you though on the whole kids thing btw. Think it's baffling.

 

I've already said that my eldest can make his own choice.

My twelve year old son can't and won't over rule anything, and no one will over rule me on his behalf.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings everyone.

 

I've no idea on the lower age limit tbh. I'd never describe a 12 year old as being informed enough to make a decision personally though.

 

I said earlier in the thread, last page I think, that it was being approved for 12-15 years olds here.

I'd be happy really for my eldest to make his own choice once he's sixteen but he's had the invite so if he wants it I wouldn't try to stop him.

The idea that anyone younger could over rule me if I said they weren't having it is laughable to be absolutely honest.

 

I meant the lower age limit of a child who can be deemed as informed enough* to make their own decision. There must be one?

Or whatever terms is it they use.

 

It's clear you don't agree with it but ultimately the choice is the childs and not yours. You could shout and swear, get angry and kick up a fuss. If the child was still adamant they wanted the vaccine then you would be ultimately overruled.

At least we've also cleared up that Covid can have fatal consequences for children, which you were also wrong about it.

 

I'm not sure if it's 12 or 13, tbh. It's one of those ages where the decision lies with the child over the parent.

 

Ffs fella your are a lazy little fat fk ain't ya

Analysis: Subsequent Covid infections likely to be milder

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Nick Triggle

Health Correspondent

Covid is on its way to becoming like the common cold, according to two leading experts, Oxford University’s Prof Sir John Bell and Prof Dame Sarah Gilbert, who designed the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

For a virus that has caused such devastation, that may seem like a bold claim. But what past pandemics show is that the virus comes in waves. The initial waves are big, causing a huge amount of serious illness, but then get smaller and smaller.

This is not because the virus disappears, but because the immunity we have built up lessens its impact. The illnesses caused are less severe even though we get infected repeatedly.

The vaccines that have been developed have basically given our immune systems a head start, teaching them how to fight off the virus.

The protection against infection may wane over time, but it remains stronger against serious illness.

That means while we face repeated infections in the future, they are likely to be milder for most and in the process keep our immune systems topped up.

As we see with other viruses, older people and those with compromised immune systems will remain at greater risk. That is why they are likely to be offered repeat vaccinations in future years.

This does not mean there will be no Covid deaths in the future – a bad flu winter can still claim 25,000 lives – but instead it will reach a level that society considers acceptable.

The big question is just how quickly we get there.

 

Yeah, ok mate.

They wouldn't be able to over rule me though.

 

They'll just give your child the vaccine in a school. You wouldn't be there and you would have been overruled. It's called Gillick competence.

I'm leaving it there cos it's clearly an emotive subject for you.

 

Chief don't listen to this *****l.......you have right of your children and don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise.

 

Yes, you are leaving it there.

If my kids school give a vaccine to one of my children without my consent I would prosecute them.

I don't care what bollocks you've read somewhere, that would never happen.

 

Bullshit

 

Dickhead.

I'm not talking about your child here, I'm talking about in general.

Nobody would have any right to prosecute when the clinician would be working within the law if they were to give the vaccine to a child who is/was deemed competent to make decisions on their own health. Any attempt to do so would be laughed at.

 

Stop it ffs your talking complete and utter ****

 

**** me, you’re as thick as a whale burrito.

He’s talking about the impact of the virus on those with immunity, and that it’s effect in terms of creating serious illness will wane due to that immunity.

Here’s the thing thick ****, you have no immunity - by choice. So he didn’t mean you.

 

Clinician?

You said if they were given it at school they could just do it without my consent, so make your mind up.

Because you know what, and I don't really think I need to say this again but will anyway, no they wouldn't.

Have already said that my eldest, who I believe is old enough to make his own choice even though he's not yet sixteen, can have it if he feels he needs it. And it wouldn't be at school either.

Either of my younger ones no chance. You telling me that they can doesn't make it true.

 

So you are calling her mother a liar, right oh,