1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    But they wouldn’t have been wrong though….
     
    #67321
  2. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    57,238
    Likes Received:
    45,154
    In theory, yes. In reality, probably not and definitely not if the opposition is fractured and preferring to stay in opposition than accept we’ll never have a genuinely left-wing government. Circa 40% of those who do vote will vote Tory if Johnson or whoever is PM by then broke into their house and shat on their kids. Very few voters actually make a difference in our chosen type of democracy.
     
    #67322
  3. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    So it is possible….and I personally don’t see any reason why it isn’t possible. Working people will soon see what the Tories really are, like they have seen the Labour Party for what they have now become.
    It will happen
     
    #67323
  4. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    57,238
    Likes Received:
    45,154
    Anything is possible. I once saw Marc Nygaard smash in a half volley from 30-odd yards.

    But to get the millions of “working people” required to give enough of a **** about the two main parties to both vote at all and vote for the same alternative under an FPTP system is like hoping for 46 Nygaard half volley goals a season. The more successful it is, the more it puts a dent in Labour while barely laying a glove on the Tories.
     
    #67324
  5. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    So what in your opinion is the other option ?
     
    #67325
  6. Steelmonkey

    Steelmonkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2011
    Messages:
    22,766
    Likes Received:
    43,499
    IMG-20211004-WA0003.jpg

    New incentive scheme released to attract HGV drivers
     
    #67326
    1982_Ranger, kiwiqpr and bobmid like this.
  7. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    57,238
    Likes Received:
    45,154
    Appreciate that Labour is far from perfect but it’s the only alternative in the system we have.
     
    #67327
  8. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    Fair enough but that’s where we disagree then…….
     
    #67328
  9. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556


    And I thought we had some middle class posters :)
     
    #67329
  10. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2018
    Messages:
    30,941
    Likes Received:
    39,758
    Nice spin. I've come to expect no less from the Anti-Tory brigade. The government are returning the Universal Credit payments back to normal, now. Folk on benefits were handed an unexpected, but welcomed, extra £20 a week to help them through the pandemic. We have to be realistic and understand the time was always going to come when we started to tighten our purse strings and claw back some of the money that Socialist Sunak went overboard on. Benefits returning to normal and a tax rise is the result of these actions. For what it's worth, the Conservatives got it wrong with the uplift to peoples benefits. During lockdown folks savings mainly went up and not down. Nobody on benefits needed any extra money to get through it. It should have been held back until now when we are coming out of the lockdown and prices are rising.

    Farmers can't get workers for their farms because they aren't advertising the jobs that they have available. They want to continue underpaying foreign workers rather than paying the British people a decent wage. You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

     
    #67330

  11. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Messages:
    21,113
    Likes Received:
    16,156
    Its the same reason you think the EU cannot be reformed from the inside stainesy
     
    #67331
  12. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    You have a good point Bobby…..however at least I can try and do something about it here.
     
    #67332
    BobbyD likes this.
  13. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    22,267
    Likes Received:
    21,602
    You're quite right, I haven't been paying attention to Isobel Oakeshott and if you think that people on Universal Credit should dip into their savings, I really don't wish to pay any further attention to you either.
     
    #67333
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2021
    bobmid likes this.
  14. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    The thing is though Strolls….he’s got a point. You can hide your head in the sand as deep as you like but there’s a lot of truth in what he has said (as the clip shows)
     
    #67334
  15. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    22,267
    Likes Received:
    21,602
    I don't hold any particular candle for turkey farmers, Stainesy. This bloke thinks that Sunak is a socialist and that people on Universal Credit should be dipping into their savings. Strange bedfellows you have.
     
    #67335
  16. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2018
    Messages:
    30,941
    Likes Received:
    39,758
    I don't. Stop lying <laugh>
     
    #67336
    rangercol likes this.
  17. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,556
    But that isn’t what he’s saying though Strolls. Agree with you about the Turkey Farmer……he’s obviously a ****
     
    #67337
    rangercol likes this.
  18. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    13,488
    Likes Received:
    14,910
    Here here
     
    #67338
    Staines R's likes this.
  19. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2018
    Messages:
    30,941
    Likes Received:
    39,758
    I said people on benefits didn't need any extra money during the lockdown. On a separate issue, I said folks savings mainly went up and not down during lockdown. I never mentioned anybody employed/unemployed dipping into their savings. Let's keep this factual, please.

    The reason I call the chancellor Socialist Sunak is because I believe he spent too much during the pandemic and most of it was wasted cash.
    Eat out to help out. Never seen the point in that and it will have cost the taxpayer a fortune.
    £20 a week extra for UC. I never understood that because it wasn't needed. Now, they're removing it at a time when all of our bills are on the rise. This should have been the time to give people extra money. The Conservatives got that back to front. They've got it wrong.
    Furlough scheme and grants for businesses. Pretty much everybody I know who was able to take advantage with that went on to take a bit of a liberty with it, tbh. Good idea but far to relaxed and carefree with it.
     
    #67339
  20. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    13,488
    Likes Received:
    14,910
    Sweet jesus theres some ****e in that post.
     
    #67340
    Stroller likes this.

Share This Page