Great post mate.....and that is what some in the Labour party don't accept....the fact that you would pay more if you could afford to. Now,I know there are a number of employers who don't follow that mantra,but there are a great many who do.....so it isn't a case of one fits all the way some Labour members would have you believe. There are a very many self employed business owners who feel a great deal of responsibility to the people who work with them.......and go above and beyond in their committment to the business and their employees........something the Labour party doesn't seem able to grasp. It's bosses v workers to a lot of them.....back to the Victorians.....which is,in the modern day,fundamentally flawed....which is why they would never regain any power under a proper system. Unfortunately,our media,driven by very short-term,fly-by-night,in and out,pretty boy and girl,pr,spin doctoring,soundbite,clever at promoting the party line system,does not lend it's hand to that. We need a fundamental change to the system......and,until we get it, we'll continue to limp ever sideways.
This is a massive part of the problem in my opinion. The Labour Party especially (although I'm sure there are Conservatives who are the same), and particularly those on the left of it, have this attitude that the other party are bad people. The notion that any policy that they don't agree with is inherently evil has been shown on this thread. Until we get away from that, there will never be proper political discourse and therefore no significant progress.
Corbyn is now an irrelavence and can be ignored. And I'm a 'floating voter' who will defend Starmer, when I can, not because I support him, but because I see him as the only credible opposition Leader, at present. And unless there is a credible Labour Party The UK will be saddled with Boris, or a 'Boris Clone' for the forseeable future. For example I read that Momentum is back, the tail trying to wag the dog, on the minimum pay issue. I'ts an easy drum to bang. A headline grabber. And at the minute, Sir Kier is the County's main defense against these dangerous people. Quite honestly they scare me. Boris on the other hand, SOMETIMES makes me laugh. Sometimes he disgusts me. He doesnt scare me though.
Good post but sadly you are stretching the word credible to its limit as I don’t think Starmer is up to a credible standard unfortunately. It’s going to take a few more failures for labour to change enough to become credible in my opinion. It’s one step forward and one step back at best for the Labour Party lately. They can’t even slag people off without making themselves look foolish.
I don’t mind Starmer to be honest and if he can properly marginalise the far left whoppers who have made a once proud party unelectable and get rid of them then I may be prepared to vote for Labour in the next GE. I want to see and know more about what their plans are for the future however, at the moment all they seem to do is virtue signal and play identity politics.
I’ll ask the question again though. Who is a more credible PM. Starmer or the ****show that is Boris. Not saying that the Labour Party aren’t in a bad way - they firmly are, I despise Momentum - but the state of the Tories man - Williamson, fuel, the USA deal, lorry drivers, most of the handling of Covid, cash for friends, that vile car crash Patel, Rees Mogg, - it’s farcical. Not sure why people think the car crash of Labour is unelectable when the car crash of the Tories and their buffoon of an absent leader are electable. If you compare trust in a PM I’d have Starmer - he’s rational- he just has devastation beneath him, but so does Johnson tbh
Come on mate you must of watched the vid Saff put on, are you really saying you would vote for a leader with that bunch of complete nut jobs backing him.
Saff is someone I don’t want to engage with. Not a very nice bloke imho. My choice. I could find a few Tory videos and evidence of the same it isn’t hard to find. They are as **** as each other to me right now - I’d say Starmer is less of a dangerous idiot with far better values. Not that I think he’s good either. Just less bad.
I am in the main a Labour supporter... but Corbyn was and is toxic. At the old sods Christmas golf game and lunch...just before the election, mostly Labour supporters none could stand Cirbyn. At our first tee, we have a small garden and plaque to Richard Annan, a VC from WW2. He had one of the biggest funerals in the Cathedral a while back. Corbyn is seen as anti British Army and not patriotic.
Corbyn’s gone. Must admit I’m not some mad patriot so that bothers me less. The thing for me is that he was blindly ideological, disloyal to his colleagues, divisive, a bad leader/ manager, and not always genuine. But he’s gone and has been managed out. Rightly so in my view though I have friends who disagree.
Matt Hancock as well man, my word. Michael Gove. Working class men arguing the toss for these lot is bizarre.
Problem is the **** doesn’t stick to Johnson he is going to take some moving because of that and although I agree that what’s going on around him is crap I can’t see him being beaten in the next election, it’s more likely he will pack in then lose. Labour can’t seem to agree on anything within the party with all these loony’s on the left and until they sort that out they are not going to regain the NE so not a hope of running the tories close. I cannot stand any of the options we are faced with politically in the uk it’s never been this crap. However I think it boils down to one thing, personality. Johnson is a bumbling buffoon but is more marketable, Starmer is porridge. Bland, palatable but ultimately less rewarding overall. The NE was gained on one thing, Brexit and the hope of change. Labour are still struggling with the learning outcomes of that lesson and if they don’t listen to the voters it will keep happening. They need to pull their heads out of their arses and actually speak to people on the street they will tell them where they are going wrong. Unfortunately I don’t think they are capable of making the required changes not while the infighting is going on. The tories also need to take heed and actually try to fulfil some of their policies and promises or they run the risk of losing some of that majority.
It’s looking like Brexit might also bite them on the arse mind. Yes Covid has an impact but a high risk financial strategy can bankrupt you when there’s an anomaly. The two things combined seem to have been a political disaster. I agree about Starmer mind he’s clearly sharp but appears like a cardboard cut out. Dull versus idiot.
