Hmm well I don't think it's as straightforward as that. Pochettino wasn't there long enough to oversee his development, Mourinho is Mourinho, Mason was in charge for one game and then you hire a watered down version of Mourinho in Nuno. For most of his time at Spurs, he's been playing under a very defensive manager who doesn't have a great recent track record of motivating players to reach their potential. I'm not trying to make excuses for him, as this is now his 3rd season in English football so he should be doing far better, but I'm just wondering whether a manager like Potter, for example, would be able to get a proper tune out of him.
I'm just annoyed at managers trying to get him to be something that he's not, to be honest. The player deserves plenty of criticism too, but we all know what his strengths and weaknesses are. It doesn't matter how good a player is if you don't use him properly. You're not going to get him to improve himself either, if he doesn't believe in you.
Do you think you'll sell him next Summer if he has another season where he doesn't fulfil expectation? What kind of money would you get for him? As I can't envisage you getting the £60m (or whatever it was) back.
You don’t pay 60 mill for a player then have to go through 5/6 managers to find one that might get the best out of him. What kind of arse over tit way is that to run a football club? Plus, Harry Potter doesn’t have magical formations to get the best out of Ndombele. Every formation requires your effort as a player, we can get any manager in…none can make him work harder, run more, fight more, that comes from you or you get found out time and time again…as Ndombele has been.
formations don’t make you gas after the 60th minute, unless you are suggesting this guy has a role which is requiring him to cover the most distance hence he’s gassed and there are stats to prove he does all this running…I haven’t seen them. All these managers can’t get a performance out of him because he doesn’t believe in them? Like I said maybe he’s the problem then, infact I know he is.
It was so bleeding obvious that he should have been the one but...depending on what you believe... ...he turned us down flat, because he saw through Levy; ...we wouldn't contemplate paying compensation for anyone with a job and went for those with a fresh P45, ...we didn't think he had the experience...and so went for wholly unsuitable alternatives, who were all doomed to fail - Gatusso, Conte, Nuno. It matters not which is true. It all points to the terrible state our club's in.
Poch was there long enough to realise his fitness was poor though. He only last 90 mins twice under Poch in the league and Poch was here for about the first eleven or twelve league games. Jose wanted him gone then Levy intervened. Played him but he never really excelled, few nice touches and one great goal was about it. Mason was here for about six games and dropped him after one or two. Nuno can’t get a tune out of him now either, albeit he can’t really get a tune out of anyone. His attitude is just “poor me, poor me” more so than someone who’ll get their head down and graft to impress a manager. Doesn’t seemingly want to get his fitness in check, doesn’t work hard enough in matches… he’s just another player who thinks they made it before they actually did.
deffo this. He's a great finisher and given time has a great cross and is functional at other parts (good at pass and move). Have someone marking him full time or just playing tight and aggressive on him and he's more than useless unless hes in the box using his height. I think i prefer Chilwell as he can actually fly past a man and one two with players but his technique and touch aren't as good (hoping it gets better with time). I can't complain with what Tuchel has done though and its been a great start to the season so i will trust the boss
The biggest issue is that both Poch and Nuno have track records of getting their players to peak fitness, and yet neither has managed this with Ndombele Nuno could at least claim that Ndombele was one of the myriad players who missed pre-season as a reason for his fitness not being up to par, but when you consider other pre-season absentees like Hojbjerg or Gil are clearly much further along with their fitness that doesn't absolve Ndombele entirely, while also begging the question why Ndombele's been rushed into a key role so quickly
His talent is off the scale, he showed that Juve, Bayern and City in that CL run back in 19/20. But yeah his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Friend of mine who supports Lyon said that Ndombele once outright said he couldn't be bothered running against small teams. Like with Hazard at Chelsea (and I'd defend Hazard to my last dying breath), you get the feeling Ndombele could achieve even more than he has done if he took football remotely seriously.
Haven’t seen the talent, it’s a myth. Seen him do a few tricks so what? I saw a Seal do tricks once too He can’t play football at this level
As much as I think Sky give Liverpool and United an easy ride (especially after bad defensive displays) he is right on the money here.
Fairly reliable reports suggested that NDombele was holding out for an offer from the likes of Juve, Bayern, Barca or Real Madrid over the summer. That tells you everything you need to know about what he thinks he is vs where his career actually is right now. If he thinks you really make it at one of those clubs without being a serious professional he’s delusional. I’m torn between wanting him banished because he’s never shown a desire to get fit or work for any manager, and wanting him in the team because he’s one of the few creative outlets we have who could make a difference as a 10, even if his presence causes other problems. Between him and GLC it was a ****show of two big summer signings. I was so excited about Gio and he briefly showed some good form at the end of the Covid season but he’s had a plethora of injuries and other issues that have kept him out of the side. At least he usually shows some heart and I think there’s a good player in there, but I’ve pretty much lost patience with him. If he isn’t going to ever fully recover from injuries and will keep getting disrupted by the Argentina international games situation then it’s time to cut loose. It’s a shame but not all of his doing. Tanguy on the other hand has just never looked arsed, seems like he wanted to join Spurs and ride on the coat-tails of his harder-working peers to get a big move. It just isn’t going to fly.
Might just be a case of the wrong fit. Forlan and Lukaku left England as virtual laughing stocks but years later become virtually the best strikers in Europe at the beginning of their respective decades. Maybe Ndombele needs to be moved on or a right coach to get the best out of him but the talent is definitely there, I've never seen a footballer as resistant to high press as he is. But yeah, he definitely needs to sort himself out or get moving, THFC can't afford passengers.
His fitness is obviously a massive issue, but he does cover quite a lot of distance, according to the stats. That wasn't what I was referring to when I was talking about his role, though. He's good on the ball, has excellent technique, can pick a pass, score a goal and he closes down well when the ball's in front of him. He doesn't track back, can't man-mark, won't compete physical at the back and runs out of steam after about an hour. If we're going to play him, then we need to get the best out of him, play to his strengths and try to avoid his weaknesses. How? Eriksen shared a lot of his features, minus the fitness one. Play him in a similar way. We've got other attacking midfielders that can come on once he's burnt out.
