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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Apr 20, 2020.

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  1. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    Nope, it was homemade. Lovely bit of nosebag <ok>

    That all sounds great, buddy. I reckon you'll have a great time with your mum around. Nice one!
     
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    I cant remember but this doesnt refer to another name
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spudulike
     
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  3. monacoger

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    I like Bin Dippers. Whenever I have been to Anfield it's been a right laugh. They have a brilliant sense of humour and Tories up there are protected species.
     
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  5. monacoger

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    May I add, I was only 7 or 8 at the time, hence my confusion. Think we stayed in the Strand Hotel though iirc
     
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  6. Mick O'Toon

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    You not using your Ryder cup thread? <laugh>
    I'd say 3or 4 but hard ask
     
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  7. monacoger

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    I almost opened up my Ryder Cup thread, whilst in company of my kids' friends' parents today! How the **** would have I explained that? It would have been bad enough if I could speak Spanish, which I can't.
     
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  8. Mick O'Toon

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    Keep your phone away from your telly in case you end up casting <laugh>
     
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  9. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    I was actually thinking about that today. My younger boy has a tablet and my elder boy had it tye other day and said it was playing on the TV because he pressed a button. I thought maybe I will do that with my phone, bit no, **** that, I don't understand it enough for that carry on.
     
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  10. Mick O'Toon

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    I was messing around with it and set it up but then it was coming on when I didn't mean it, nothing bad thank **** but it's easily done so had to turn it off.
     
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  11. Toby

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    His grandaughter is a 9/10. Worked with her a few jobs back.
     
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  12. Toby

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    Did you ever sort your telly out?
     
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  13. monacoger

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    *landline
     
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  14. Mick O'Toon

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    I did yeah thanks, got a Firestick and works fine for what I wanted, bit of work involved downloading other apps(legalities) but no rush on those :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. monacoger

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    Is this IPTV that you are speaking of? I am going to get that, but I won't if it is as complicated as you say it is.
     
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  16. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    Schoolchildren hold mock trial of MP Richard Drax over ancestral slavery links

    Will Humphries, Southwest Correspondent
    Wednesday September 22 2021, 4.15pm, The Times
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    An actor played the part of Richard Drax, who declined to take part in the eight-hour “trial”
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    Schoolchildren took part in an eight-hour mock trial of a millionaire Tory MP accused of benefiting from the proceeds of slavery.

    Richard Drax, MP for South Dorset, was put in the fictional dock because of his relatives’ involvement in the slave trade and his inheritance of a sugar plantation.

    Forty pupils aged 12 to 18 were involved, taking on the roles of prosecution and defence lawyers, while others were split into three juries.


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    Clive Stafford Smith, a leading human rights lawyer, organised the mock trial and acted as judge.

    All three juries found Drax guilty as charged, although they dismissed a second charge that he “had acted like his ancestors while performing his role as MP”.


    It was the first “Generation on Trial” event that 3DCentre, Stafford Smith’s charity, is staging for school pupils. The centre says that young people have been “handed a poisoned planet by the previous generations” and the trials are to “hold the perpetrators accountable, even if only symbolically”.

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    Richard Drax, who controls a plantation in Barbados once worked by slaves, is thought to be the richest MP
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    The organisation said that it was holding mock trials of these powerful figures, to learn about where they went wrong, and where they had opportunities to avoid the catastrophes they created.

    Drax has previously faced demands to pay reparations because he controls the 250-acre Drax Hall plantation in Barbados, where his ancestors created one of the first slave-worked sugar plantations in the British Empire.

    The MP refused to take part in the mock trial but has said in the past: “No one can be held responsible today for what happened many hundreds of years ago.”



    An actor was drafted in to play the role of the “posh defendant” in Bridport town hall, Dorset.

    Other right-wing figures who face prosecution for perceived crimes are likely to be Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Priti Patel.

    Some education campaigners have criticised the events, saying that they will lack impartiality and risk “brainwashing” schoolchildren.

    Chris McGovern, a retired head teacher and chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: “I do not think schoolchildren should be putting anyone on trial. This is an example of out-of-control brainwashing and it should not be allowed as schools are duty bound to be impartial, not have an agenda. There is room for a balanced debate based on knowledge but this is a type of fanaticism.”

    Pupils from All Saints School in Weymouth and the Woodroffe School in Lyme Regis took part.

    Prosecution witnesses included a slavery expert, while a wealth manager was brought in by the defence to explain that it was “legitimate” to inherit wealth.

    Stafford Smith, 62, a campaigner against the death penalty who has defended detainees at Guantanamo Bay, said: “We had some students from two schools doing a series called Generation on Trial where we are putting people from my generation on trial for how they have messed up the world for the young generation.

    “We put the local MP Richard Drax on trial for benefiting from the proceeds of slavery because his family made all their money from that and we invited him to be the defendant but he didn’t come.

    “The kids were actually very open-minded and poor Mr Drax got convicted on the charge of benefiting from the proceeds of slavery, but not on another charge.

    “The idea of this and the 3DCentre is to give young people opportunities to have the experience of human rights and to therefore get them excited about it. They were fabulous, They lasted eight hours without a yawn.”

    Defending the mock trials, Stafford Smith added: “I think the younger generation should be angry because a lot of them don’t understand how their chances in life have been diminished by my generation.”

    Dan Watts, head teacher of the Woodroffe School, said: “A key role of all schools is, as stated by the Department for Education, that students should be encouraged to develop an interest in investigating moral and ethical issues and use this knowledge to support their own understanding, whilst respecting the views of others.

    “Furthermore, it is expected that whilst at school, students build their understanding of and respect for democracy and the rule of law, as well as their ability to recognise the difference between right and wrong, in both simple and more complex situations.

    “Clearly emphasised by the 3DCentre was the fact that this was an academic discussion and did not purport to be a real trial, but an educational process. Care was taken by the organisers to ensure that the arguments heard by our students were balanced.”

    The 3DCentre is planning future “Generation on Trial” events on issues ranging from climate change, Brexit, student loans and UK immigration policy.

    Drax, 63, is believed to be the wealthiest landowner in the House of Commons. He owns 5,600 hectares of farmland and woodlands and is worth an estimated £150 million.

    He declined to comment.


    Quite right too. :afro:
     
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  17. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    Hopes of joining America's trade bloc look like pointless posturing
    A free trade pact with the US was touted as one of the great benefits of Brexit – but it still doesn’t look any closer

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    Not for nothing is the Department for International Trade rumoured to be nicknamed “Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V” in Westminster. Liz Truss is the queen of cut-and-paste, say critics – any post-Brexit trade deals are mere replicas of those that already existed with that particular country when we were part of the European Union, which isn’t exactly the premise on which Brexit was sold to voters.

    What Boris Johnson covets the most, as he visits the White House for the first time as Prime Minister, is a bilateral deal with America. Yet no sooner had he arrived in Washington, the president had dented hopes of stronger transatlantic links, prompting reports that the UK was considering joining an existing US-Canada-Mexico pact instead. That’s how desperate post-Brexit Britain is to forge closer ties.

    A bilateral free trade pact with the US was touted as one of the great benefits of Brexit during the Leave campaign. The Prime Minister made it a priority of his tenure. As foreign secretary, he claimed we would be “first in line” for such an agreement. There was even a pledge in the 2019 Conservative manifesto to strike a free trade deal with the US within three years.

    There is no chance of that now. Biden is far too preoccupied with his domestic post-pandemic economic rebuilding plan, and America’s hasty retreat from Afghanistan has been interpreted as the beginning of a new era of isolationism.

    Even Johnson admits that “Joe has a lot of fish to fry”, a sure sign that he has little hope of a deal any time soon, if at all, none of which says much for the so-called special relationship.

    Despite Johnson’s claims that ties have never been better, friction over Afghanistan, the Northern Ireland Protocol and his perceived closeness to Donald Trump have badly strained relations.

    Indeed, the Prime Minister can’t even guarantee that a bilateral trade pact with the US will be sealed before 2024’s general election, a full eight years after the referendum. Instead, he has been left to talk up the idea of “a good trade deal that really works rather than a quick deal”, another classic piece of Boris revisionism.

    But the risk is that the UK doesn’t get one at all, leaving it to scramble around for alternatives. Few regard the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) as a realistic option, even as a way to gain access to American markets through the back door.

    If the big prize in international trade terms is a bilateral pact, the USMCA is firmly the wooden spoon. Trump hated its predecessor, the North American Free Trade Agreement, so much that he tried to kill it.

    Experts say the benefits would be negligible at best. One estimate is that membership would be worth an additional 0.1-0.2pc of GDP to the economy.

    Crucially, the UK wouldn’t be able to name the price for joining it. So it would have swapped one trade bloc where it had limited ability to set the terms, in order to join another where the rules have been set by someone else. And what would the true cost be – allowing chlorinated chicken or other imports deemed harmful to British interests?

    But there’s a wider point that remains the elephant in the room for free trade aficionados: most trade deals are really a lot of political hot air for something that has very little impact on people’s lives.



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  18. Mick O'Toon

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    No it's not only if you want to download the illegal movie stream apps :bandit:
     
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    Thank God that has been confusing me for years .

    Now we need to get rid of "man marking " in soccer .

    It's exclusionary
     
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