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  1. -jordan-

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    correct-emondo.<ok>
     
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  2. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Religion is evil. Does nothing but hold us back.

    That goes for all religions aswell.
     
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    Its not the religion that is evil (usually!) but those controlling it for their own selfish gain. Anything can be used for immoral means i.e. MP's !!!! Being a MP is supposed to be good and a honourable position. Yet look at the leaches in society making false expenses claims, ripping the tax payers off.
     
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    There will always be people that want to fight. They just need an excuse.
     
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    all religion is evil, its a tool for evil and its an excuse for evil.

    It is the worst thing mankind ever created. Utter bullshit that has cost billions of lives.

    Corrupt vile thing.
     
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    Buddhism could hardly be called evil, could it?
     
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    I'd also like to say that we didn't invade Iraq as a result of 9/11. Afghan - yes. Iraq - no.
     
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    You would think not but it has its fair share of nutters. My brother lives in Thailand and he says they are as extreme as anyone when they want to be. The peaceful way of life we all believe them to have is true but they are not afraid to go nuts.

    1 buddist commited a terrorist attack in Japan once. Dont know much more about it though.

    Honestly, religion corrupts. Far to much control and based on fairy tales. Its a recipe for disaster
     
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    Correct.

    There were reports Saddam was planning an attack at the time although they were likely false or made without substance.

    Saddam needed to be removed though, it was going to happen no matter what it was just a question of time.
     
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    I have to agree with Batmanu and Kamran, you stretty are ****ing racist clown. You have no life and have no clue about anything. Islam is not a race but a religion and hate towards a religion is racist you clown. I can't believe how thick stretty is. He is a Nazis full of hate and has no care in the world about peace. Comments like "blow that country up" is a disgrace. What kill innocent children? What the **** have they done?? Few crazy terrorist who blame their disgraceful actions on islam as an excuse is not a fair steriotype is it. So 1.5b muslims are terrorists now?? Look at you ****ing selves for **** sake, you are full of hatred and murder and are no better than a terrorist.
     
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    You attack another poster for implying all muslims are terrorists and yet you label the state of Israel a terrorist state despite the fact many people who live in that state hate violence and wish to have peace for themselves, their children and neighbour. Smart move.
     
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    the israeli government is a terrorist organisation. their people, might not be..but the government almost certainly is. of course with the US backing and media propaganda, the only terrorists in the middle east are the palestinians.
     
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    Are you stupid or something? I am not saying the people who are innocent are terrorist, you are trying to debate about me about politics? I will beat you hands down and Jordan is correct the Israeli state as in government is a terrorist organisation.
     
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    Don't Buddhist dissenters just tend to set themselves on fire?
     
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    Yes I make stupid articles about football but when it comes to politics I am very passionate. I am in no way stating the Arab world is perfect because its far far from it and very corrupt but its not helped by the West who exploit this corruptness and don't allow the people of these nations to have a say. As for Islam extremism its impossible to spread, the western world is so dominant in media, movies, internet that ideas have spread to the Arab world. Once women were not allow to go to university but many females became influenced by the internet and forced their way into Uni. You may sit here saying our nation is the best and we can do what we like to these people. But is that fair? I am anti imperialism and colonialism and those ideologies are dieing out because people want freedom.

    When we are talking why these people leave their countries the answer is simple. The phony war in Iraq was all about oil and nothing else, the west encouraged dictators because they have them cheap resources, however that will all change and people of their nations will become richer and stay in their own home lands.
     
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    You can say the same of any government since a definition of a terrorist is:

    a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

    The Irish government current ruling party (Fianna Fáil) was born out of the anti treaty Sinn Fein party lead by De Valera which had fought the Irish Free State government in a bloody civil war. The current deputy First Minister in NI is Martin McGuinness who was a PIRA gunman. The US system was born out of armed insurrection in the late eighteenth century and even the current British Parliamentary System owes its origin to the English Civil War when Parliamentary took up arms and used violence.

    So again by definition every state is a terrorist state.
     
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    lets face it, the israeli government, as is the country it would seem, are a law unto themselves and answerable to noone.

    ****ers.
     
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    I agree with you that the war in Iraq was phoney and all about oil. Absolutely. However Israel while not perfect is the only true liberal democracy in that region. It's worth noting that soon after the birth of Israel, that it was the undemocratic Arab regimes that attempted to drive the survivors from Nazi Death Camps back into the sea. I'm not demonising the Arabs or Muslims here, that is a historical fact. Israel is a democracy whether you care to admit it or not: Israel’s Arab citizens enjoy equal rights with Jewish citizens of the state. Israeli Arabs participate in all aspects of Israeli life, from menial jobs to Supreme Court justices. There is an Israeli Bill of Rights just like the US one protecting rights. Tell me how many Arab nations have such a protection of its citizens rights? Syria, Libya, or Saudi Arabia. Do me a favour.
     
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    Much like the US, Russia, China and the EU.

    Bunch of ****s...
     
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    So are you saying that the normal Israeli people themselves are somehow at fault?
     
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