This sums up probably our biggest problem and the reason we're barely sniffing the ball in the opposition box: the channels between the midfield and Kane are non-existent. Last season, we solved the problem by using Kane to bridge the gap. This season no-one is doing it and even Tanguy will struggle to do it when the gap between our midfield and front line is so vast. The more i see it in action, the more I think 433 will be the death of us.
The statistics do not back up your view that we were more creative. Spurs 8 attempts (2 on target 6 off target) 5 corners Chelsea 20 attempts (10 on target 10 off target) 11 corners While it is true that they scored from a fluke and a set piece, we beat Wolves with a set piece (a penalty) and Watford with a fluke goal. I think not over reacting is as important as not over reaching. I am genuinely bored by our football. We average 9 attempts per game with an average of 3 or 4 on target. Ain't pretending to know what the answer is btw
I didn't say we were more creative in play. We had more creative players on the pitch. Our nearest equivalent to the Chelsea second half team would be: Gollini Sanchez Romero Dier Tanganga Skipp Hojbjerg Winks Davies Son Kane A manager who made that selection would be castigated on here.
are you really comparing davies and tangaga to azpilicueta and davies. The two sets of fullbacks are chalk and cheese. Also skipp, hojberg and destroyers whilst winks is winks. Kante who runs around a lot if probably the most defensive, jorginho is more of a playmaker rather than defensive midfielder and kovacic is actually pretty creative and can drive past players. None of your midfield 3 do that.
This season it's reasonably clear already that our tactical plan is to overload the wings, as demonstrated by the visualisation of our buildup sequences TheExtraInch posted yesterday which, of course, got twisted by the Twitter/Reddit crowd into "Our midfield is there to do nothing but defend!!!!!" as if all those lines from midfield to the flanks didn't exist And this is where Kane dropping deep is causing issues, because his dropping deep means that when the ball goes out to the wings it means they either have to hold onto the ball to wait for him to catch up or send the ball into the box in the hope somebody makes a late run, which does immediately bring to mind Doherty's insistence at playing one-twos with Hojbjerg against Rennes the other night and only one-twos with Hojbjerg even when Hojbjerg was sitting deep or there was space Doherty could run into The issue at this exact moment in time is that sending it to the wings has issues, as Begwijn and Lucas are both currently out (thank you very much, useless Turkish ref...) and it has to be said we need FBs who can reliably find their teammates, which leads to the following issues * Reguilon is far better at interplay with Hojbjerg/Ndombele in midfield than he is at getting the ball onto a striker's forehead or outstretched toe in the final third * Doherty can only do so in a Wolves shirt * Tanganga and Davies aren't flying FBs Basically we need Kane to unlearn what the ubermensch drilled into him and hover on the line of the middle and final third instead of dropping back towards the middle third, because while that does bridge a gap to get the ball forward it also mean that our wide players have nobody to get the ball forward to, and obviously something is going to give in that scenario and it's invariably going to involve the dearth of players in the opposition box when the wide players get into dangerous areas
You’re joking right? Comparing the dross Spurs currently have to a quality Chelsea team. Funniest comment I’ve seen on here for a long time.
Can't answer for others but I can't see many (if any) complaining if the team put on a good performance. People were and continue to be positive about the first half performance today. As for having creative players on the pitch...I weren't digging at Nuno when I said we are boring. He was not even the 3rd choice manager...he was appointed 5 weeks after the season ended. I said back in February this year that the club should have had a back up plan in place as JM clearly needed to go. I said then that we needed to appoint a new manager then (even if he couldn't start until the end of the season) as that would give a new manager as much time as possible to work with the team to get his ideas across for the new season. Instead we waited til late April took 10 weeks and failed to get at least our first 3 choices. Everything follows on from that.
I know they have a much better team. But they are very defensive....that’s what I was trying to compare.
They're not very defensive, they just defend very well. They had more shots, more corners and more possession than us today. They’re an extremely well trained and efficient team, both with and without the ball. We on the other hand don’t know what to do with or without the ball.
No, they are totally different in style. Davies is a consistent but more defensive full back who. Reguilon is far more like alonso than davies is as alonso also isn't a great defender and likes to attack. Dave is a more defensive full back but is actually pretty handy attacking. Tangaga is nowhere near this as he's actually a centre back thats been shoved right back. Kovacic is more like Ndombele and nothing like hojbjerg, skipps. Winks/Lo Celso is most like Jorginho and Hojbjerg is like kante. I was arguing about the similarity of players rather than how decent they are. As for the cost of the like for likes, ndombele cost more than kovacic, lo celso is the same cost a jorginho. Kante cost more than Hojbjerg, Alonso cost the same as Reguillon (admittedly a few years earlier) and Azpilicueta was really cheap. Where all our big money has been spent is on our 50 strikers/wingers and ridiculous spanish keeper.
But if Tuchel was our manager who would he select? That is the comparison I was making. Chelsea have better players than us AND are well coached.
So do I but the fact that Tuchel has £100m of attackers on the bench and more than that on the field gives him a head start.
yes but that didn't stop you guys from turning over man city or losing to palace. Also the 100m of attackers on the bench you're really talking about is werner and every man and his dog can see he isn't worth anywhere near that. I don't think anyone here would swap Kane and Son for Lukaku and Havertz so it's really no excuse about your wingers and strikers as player for player, you can argue they are better.
Your comparison doesn't stand though as Tuchel is an extremely flexible manager, just look at his Dortmund, Paris and Chelsea teams and he doesn't stick with the same formation or even style. He understands what his best team is based on the players he has at his disposal and maximises their talent in the right system. Therefore he wouldn't just necessary pick the same formation as he did today with Chelsea as we probably don't have the personnel to make that effectively work, though we don't have the personnel to make much work if truth be told and Nuno's even managing to stifle our two best players with his management.
The money is a factor but there are teams that don’t spend as much as Spurs and they have better players
