I'm astonished Man$ity are not further up the list and not subject to more comments here. They have steamed up the hate list as far as I am concerned for being the exact opposite of what competitive sport is about, i.e. taking all the competition out of it and if they can't achieve anything with one team on the field, buy a better one. And the authorities are letting them get away with it (like the "sponsorship" deal). And while at the moment most of their fans phoning in on the radio have Manchester accents you'll soon find they won't have.
This was taken from the Daily Star who got their stats from 888sport who'd polled 2,000 online fans and this is what they came up with. Man Utd had almost 30% of the votes. Chelsea had 10% Arsenal had 9.3% Liverpool 4th but no figure given Man City 5th " " " " No other teams mentioned!!! Of these 2,000 fans, 21.5% gave historical rivalry as their reason for hating; 17.45% gave opposing fan's behaviour; 14.6% gave players' behaviour; 11.45% gave geographical closeness to their home Club; 9.6% said wealth and 6% said another Club's success.
A few years ago there was a similar survey, which gave some surprising results. 1 Leeds Utd, 2 Manchester Utd, 3 Chelsea, 4 Wolves, 5 Millwall, 6 Burnley, 7 Bolton, 8 West Ham, 9 Stoke, 10 Scunthorpe, 11 Derby, 12 Preston North End, 13 West Brom, 14 Manchester City, 15 Aston Villa, 16 Bristol City, 17 Sheffield United, 18 MK Dons, 19 Stockport, 20 Bristol Rovers. Weird.
I'm an Iron and since 1972 my hated team has always been Millwall, with an intense dislike of the Arsenal thrown in for good measure. Your greatest rivalry was usually with your nearest team geographically, or religiously. I've read through certain posts and I'm ashamed that there are Irons on these boards with such stupid opinions, please don't judge all Hammers as ignorant ****s, we're not.
The methodology of that survey was actually a lot more reliable than just 'ask 2000 poker players on the web' since it was based on detailed interviews with football fans from every league club.
Fair comments BA, and like the name, very clever I never had any problem with West Ham in the 60s, indeed I didn't have much problems with any teams then. There was little hate then, and you could to games at places like Spurs and West Ham, stand in mixed terraces and no-one was hitting or stabbing each other, etc. Things started getting nasty in general by the late60s/early 70s. It's calmed down in stadiums now, which is good. However, with the internet, hatred has taken on a sad new dimension.
Agreed. So clever in fact I hadn't even realised the cleverness of it until someone (clearly more clever than me) pointed it out. I can never think of such things myself.
True, but I don't understand where Stockport, Scunthorpe and the two Bristol teams come into it. Maybe they only asked one fan from each team or something?
Cheers for the comment re: the name. Agreed that things got nasty around '75, got a lovely scar on my nose from an Arsenal fan bottling me. He thought women shouldn't be at footie!!! And this internet malarkey, I've only just learnt how to use a computer and bloody wish I'd left well alone.!!!
i don't hate any club or Fan's.I dislike,but hate's a to strong word goons,£ity and Chelski are the one's i dislike most
1. Chelsea. I can't stand they've bought championships. It ruins the game. 2. Arsenal. I hate them, but on the other hand I respect how they play and how they're run. 3. Man City. See Chelsea. Though it's true, their fans deserved better for a long time, or did. 4. Liverpool. Never used to bother me much. This year they're rising with a bullet. 5. Man U. They didn't buy their success, as many plastic fans as they have. Re: Aston Villa: they don't bother me particularly--except for the combination of claret and blue, which is really notably ugly. Makes me think I'm at a '70s leisure suit convention.
For me, it's the arrogance that I dislike so much. On the whole, I don't find United or Chelsea fans arrogant (at least, not the ones I've ever met, or know). Most of my family on my mother's side are from the East End of London, so there are quite a few Hammers on that side of the family, so I cannot really claim to dislike the Spanners. In fact, I used to like their team in the 70s, and always looked forward to watching them play at the Lane. City fans, for me, seem far too stupid to dislike. It would be like kicking a dog that didn't know how to fetch a stick or lick its balls. How can you dislike that? it's stupid, yes; but just look at those doleful eyes! Poor thing!
Fans are fans, i.e. people. They're all different with every club - some are o.k - some are dickheads. As for clubs; I've already epressed my contempt for Citeh. Much as there are many reasons to dislike Wet Spam - especially at the moment. As HIAG said about others, it's a bit like kicking a defenceless animal with them.
Hi BA - so you're female, would never have guessed it from the name. Sorry to hear about the violence, that's simply disgraceful. Generally speaking women are much more sensible about football (in my experience), they're good loyal supporters, not usually into the hate stuff. So any arguments I have with West Ham fans wouldn't normally include females, as I don't expect for one moment they're in the 'hate brigade'. All the West Ham fans I've had rows/problems with in person have been male. My guess would be the internet ' strong disagreements' would be the same mono-gender fare.
Cheers Ghoddle10, the Ali part's short for Alison, I didn't want to be immediately recognised as female although I stupidly put it on my profile.!! No need to express concern about the violence, back then I was a complete **** who more than held her own!!!. Every row and fight I've ever had has been with a bloke, never had any problem with other club's female supporters either home or away so I'd agree that, generally, the women are not usually into the hate stuff. At the end of the day, I love football. Any team that plays how I believe the game should be played i.e., passing, flowing footie that uses the wings with players that give their all will always get my objective view, except Millwall!!
Millwall were the originators of football hooliganism. It all started in 1963-4 when they stoned the Plymouth Argyle coach, and smashed all the windows in at Chaiman Mickey Purser's car showroom. All the subsequent violence in football stemmed from there. So, yes, Millwall have a lot to answer for.
As much as I'd like to blame Millwall for just about everything, they were not the originators of football hooliganism. In 1314 Edward II banned football countrywide as he feared it would cause social unrest. In 1885 Preston North End beat Aston Villa 5-0 in a friendly, both teams were stoned and spat at and one PNE player was knocked out. The following year PNE fans had a running battle with QPR fans at a railway station, the first modern recording of fighting away from the ground. And just to show how long women have been going to footie, in 1905 a 70 year old drunk and disorderly woman was one of 7 PNE fans jailed for hooliganism after their match against Blackburn. It seems PNE were pretty tasty back in the day!! Millwall, however, did give us the brick.
