Woodman doesn't save anything on open play that's my issue not his mistakes. He's not ready from what I've seen
He's not made many mistakes. He hasn't much chance so far with the goals that have gone in. I've not seen anything where I thought "Dubs would have had that". But he was very very poor on Saturday.
I like Woodman and he's definitely ready. He has two good seasons in the championship. We are 4 games in and people are jumping off the deep end as usual. Each to their own but I want young players to want to play here. I want academy players to want to stay here. In order for that to happen young players need a fair crack of the whip. I'm sure Bruce will drop him cause he's a useless **** (Bruce not Freddie).
4 games. Lets actually give a young player a chance for once. Instead of someone else doing so and reaping the rewards. Do we want to give a youngster time? If not then ditch the youth system. Its pointless if our attitude is drop them at first mistake or bad game. If we don't want to learn from the Armstrong, Mbabu, and Toney etc situations then we can't then whinge that no one has broke through. To me its about mental fortitude. Having that clarity to keep on with something even when faced with a little bit of adversity. Its difficult in the modern game cause financial stakes are high, managers time is short.
Doesn't Darlow deserve a chance? Woodnan hasn't been good enough.. Not even remotely. Thankfully I doubt we'll see him for a while.
Darlow? Him of several clangers? Interesting you're happy to give him a chance but not a young lad like Woodman. Woodman has had one bad game, its just fairweather to jump on him for it. We need to be better as supporters and as a club in my opinion. We want young players to want to play here.
I dunno like Bruce seemed to question whether his keeper ha even made a save post match. I'm not saying he won't ever be ready and if we get relegated he'll be playing every week. I just don't think right nows the time to be #giving players time Play well or you're out. If he starts he needs a good performance because it's not going to help him much otherwise
Simply put, with the back four selection, we were destined to concede bar minimum two. My only hope was that we could snatch one goal and frustrate them long enough to actually somehow sneak a draw, we looked on course to do that but we all **** ourselves. I agree with you and Jakarta in the other thread, the way we set up and play games leaves us exhausted both physically and mentally and that is why we have so many injuries and concede so late on every single week. The current manager will never, ever address this as he simply doesn't understand. So we are ****ed until that change is made, irrespective of who the keeper is. Its like being diagnosed with a brain tumour and receiving paracetamol to treat the headaches. That's not solving the problem.
Woodman should stay for the next two. Move to 4231, try and retain some possession and see if that helps. As welshie rightly says the current management just doesn’t see the problem though or know how to fix it.
There was a stat in the leers Liverpool game where it said that Leeds had conceded the most shots on target in the opening 4 games (26) and we where second on (25). That means he has saved half of the shots against him. The defence and general team and tactics are to blame in the main and not Woodman. He’s made the odd mistake but when his goal is getting peppered with shots he’s gonna make them. We play defensive football with 5 defenders and 2 DM and we are still conceding significantly more shots against us. Tells you something about where the problem lies.
I think the kids simply been over hyped for a number of years. His handling is poor - nothing sticks. His distribution is poor. His command of the area is poor. He seems to be glued to his line constantly. He's 24 not some 17 year old prodigy, and if memory serves he has been quite demanding in the past - play me, loan me or sell me scenarios. I think his shot stopping is decent and I like his confidence. He will improve with a decent coaching set up over time, but I'm thinking he's more championship standard at this point. Our defence certainly doesn't help a young keeper out. That squad has been built to suit a 4-2-3-1 formation to rely on speed up front, not sit back and soak up pressure with square pegs in round holes. If we're only playing Ritchie and Lascelles for their cheer leading abilities then throw a skirt on them and give them some pom poms on the touchline.
I can't help but think when your daddy's in a high place and liked in the game that he's not as good as people think. Used to be like that when I played even at a low level. Hopefully he improves.
We are all over the shop at present defensively. We look like a team who's main coach started pre season late. Unfortunately when we committed to the change under Jones coming in, then it needs to be backed up by a solid foundation of understanding the theory. So if he's not there, you crack on as normal. It looks to me that we've struggled to continue that good work started last season. No ones fault as Jones had an unbelievable opportunity but it sums up the rest of the backroom staff. It will be interesting to see if there is sudden upturn in form/organisation in about 3-4 weeks...but the problem is that morale is down and the fans are putting the boot in. I actually think we did ok Saturday outside of the keeping and the defending for the Fernandes goal. Tough place to go for us generally but we were in the game. However any positives have been lost in the anger towards Bruce. Its obviously way over the top from fans, but that's what happens after 15 yrs of needless obscurity.
We're **** so we need a reliable keeper. If this play woodman give him time idea doesn't work we're going to get relegated
