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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Income tax is a tax but NI isn’t.
    Drummed into the masses for decades so it must be the truth.
    So job done; no tax increase.
     
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  2. Diego

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    Just like a lot of clowns were demanding it be levied under a different name as if it makes a difference <doh>
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

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    I hear Stockholm syndrome is nice at this time of year...
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    Bloody good footballer. but a feckin'' COVIDiot of the highest order...<doh>
    (That's Le Tissier I'm referring to...)
     
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    course it makes a difference . Raising the money via NI is just a tax on employment while leaving untouched the rest of society who would benefit from an actual working care system . Take me as an example due to being medically retired i live off a works pension and my investment income and being officially classified as severely disabled i seem a prime candidate for requiring help from the care system at some point .All I will pay towards this is a tiny bit of dividend income .
    Personally think NI should be scrapped as it no longer fulfills it's original intention .
     
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  9. vimhawk

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    So you advocate importing cheap foreign labour to keep wages down, instead of paying HGV drivers more in order to encourage others to enter the profession?
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

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    I didn't advocate anything. I certainly don't advocate lowering standards for drivers.
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    All of that's pretty irrelevant though, as the Brexit voters didn't think that was true.
    Those pushing for it intentionally sold the vision of multiple, mutually exclusive versions.
     
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    HGV driving is a very life-disruptive job which doesn't really suit many people. There is a win win in having freedom of movement and widening the pool of drivers. Any money saved should result in benefits for everyone if we had a government who taxed company profits properly. Freedom of movement of labour always improves economy performance if it extends to more countries as it makes it less likely that there will be mismatches between supply and demand for any job. The problem isn't the concept it is that the benefits end up in the pockets of the rich.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    Parliament suspends proxy voting for COVID isolation cases, further reducing the Democratic process .No doubt trying to convince the UK that the pandemic is over and all those lovely offices across the country can be used again - and all that lovely rental income can coming slushing back into their bank accounts and those of the Tory donors.

     
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  17. vimhawk

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    And I'm completely with you there.

    But don't you think the upshot of having a large skilled and cheaper pool of workers available in Europe is bound to mean that companies will not recruit / invest / train local employees? (A situation that appears to impact the younger workforce particularly.) So while it might be argued that British people have no divine right to these jobs, all that happens in the longer term is that salaries will be kept down as long as people who are prepared to work for lower wages can be imported?
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    We have a Tory government and a fairly conservative voting public.
    The solution is never going to be improved conditions for workers, especially younger ones.

    HGV driving is likely to be automated in the next couple of decades, too.
    Add that to the list of reasons why youngsters have no interest in those jobs.
    Crap, unpredictable hours, awful conditions, poor pay, completely unstable and you have to pay to do it.
    That's going to be a hard pass from virtually everyone.
     
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    The Royal Family have apparently used their influence to block the release of Lord Mountbatten's diaries.
    I'm sure Andrew is quite happy at that outcome...
     
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