Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

He's not worth 400m until we pay the money Sucks.

 

People would pay good TV subscription money to see players explode.

 

hope nobody asks Klopp his thoughts on that.

 

What's your thoughts on that Jurgen ?

 

Any comments from Spurs or Chelsea fans?
"Fans will be urged to travel to the stadium via bicycle or public transport and eat only vegan food when Spurs host Chelsea in the Premier League on 19 September."
There is some really nice vegan stuff available and Spurs have 315 bike rack spaces. £1k fine for being drunk in charge of a bicycle, so better get the alcohol-free beer in too.

 

They got to be having a

Vegan, football in the bin if that's the case, had enough of this bolloxs.

 

Aren't Forest Green players all vegan and you can only get vegan food there.

 

Yeah think they've got a Vegan owner who'd moulded the club on his principles.

 

You on a wind up right?

Either way, had enough of all this bolloxs. Jeez thank fook I'm old and nearer my box, than some of the poor sods that will have to live a whole generation of this bolloxs. I see SKY pushing this shhite show agenda yet again.

 

Oi don't start rattling on about principles when you are driving around in a planet burning fook off vehicle.

 

I ain't. Just saying that's how Forest Green do things.

 

Genuinly didn't know that. But don't surprise me, vegans all the same, all want to push their way on to you. Need to toss a steak in with their vegetables, see how they like it shoved in their face.

 

Yeah Dale Vince, owns a renewable energy company. Fair play to them, they are the worlds first Carbon neutral sports club, so they are probably setting the standard for others to follow. As for the Vegan part, that will help towards their carbon neutral status, but I agree Vegan activism winds me up. Probably no better way to turn somebody away from your cause than telling somebody what a **** you are for eating a steak.

 

I've always been pretty healthy in what I eat, I love a salad or a load of veg, probably more so than most people. It's probably the first options I'm looking to shop, in that it takes priority over meat selection. But vegans just get my goat, I'm already doing most of what they do, and probably understand more about it than alot of vegetarians, but I'm adding something extra I enjoy eating - meat!...or fish. Just because they don't, does not give them the right to push their thoughts on to us. Maybe it's not really aimed at people like me, I'm certainly NOT the sort of person you see frequenting a McDonalds or any other fast food chain - but my point remains, because once you start letting these tossers push a small part of their ideology on to you, it becomes a downward spiral.

 

The meat industry is pretty ****ed up. And it definitely adds to deforestation and carbon emissions. But there are plenty of small scale farms and meat producers who are not only producing good quality meat, but are also adding to soil fertilisation, wildlife diversity and general good land management. Like most things, it's mass industrialisation and unsustainable practices that **** it all up. Eating meat isn't the problem, it's the way it's produced that is.

 

I think we have two problems...

1. Over consumption of meat, mainly driven by fast food outlets.

2. Rather than controlling the animal population (over consumption), we should be controlling human population (less consumption), which will then naturally control what farmers produce.

I think meat forms an important part of our dietary requirements, it's the greed (gluttonous) or laziness in the lack of home cooking preparation (healthy diet) that is the problem. So I'm happy and perfectly respect vegans and vegetarians to a degree, what winds me up is when they start trying to go down the 'non' consumption agenda route, then they can just fook right off.

 

Fast food industry certainly contributes to it, but it's the cheap supermarket meat that fuels the industry. There's huge competition to drive down prices for consumers, which in turn means meat is produced as cheaply as possible and people have become accustomed to eating meat 24/7 and paying a pittance for it.

Less consumption would be a good thing, and not just meat. Overall we need to be using less energy and resources and that's especially the case for western industrialised countries. But that model doesn't fit with capitalism which is based on a consumer society.

There's a day each year, I think it's called Earth overshoot day, where we have used up the allotted resources to sustain life on Earth for one year. I think this year it came in July. So we're basically using about 40% more each year than the planet can sustain. And that is taking all of the nations into account. When it's broken down county by country, the worst offenders (Gas and Oil rich arab countries and the US and Canada) overshoot day comes somewhere in February !

 

Supermarket meat cheap, you kidding right?

I can remember a farmer complaining in a supermarket (Sainsburys) one time, about the cost of meat (lamb), compared to what he got paid for the produce (pre-brexit). Certainly for the poor quality from supermarkets compared to your local butcher, it's over-priced.

Shops like Aldi might be cheaper, but I certainly don't believe they are pushing the consumption of meat through price nor do consumers cook as much has they use to. The overall contributory factor for me is fast food chains, however, I'm here to be proven wrong.

 

In fairness, chips are vegan

I love the idea of asking fans to cycle cos there's 300 bike spaces...63,000 seater stadium