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Match Day Thread Hungary v England

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Sep 2, 2021.

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England win?

Poll closed Sep 3, 2021.
  1. England win

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  2. Hungary win

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  3. Draw

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  1. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    He's got a tattoo of the weapon of choice in Afghanistan on his leg.
     
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  2. City Man

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  3. THE EXCLUSIVE 10%

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    Same here.......
     
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    Well live and learn, the M4 Carbine as supplied by the US.
     
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  5. balkan tiger

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    At the time he got his tattoo, things have changed now. Bet he wished he'd bought a tee shirt.
     
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  6. Trumpton Tiger.

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    ssssshhhhhh. Think of the money. That's the principle of it.
    On another point. If taking the knee is such an important political gesture, why don't the cricket teams do it ? Did Tom Jones take the knee at Craven Park on Saturday. Did they all kneel at the magic week end ? So why does it just fall on footballers shoulders ?
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    England cricketers were taking the knee, but decided to stop in July and I've no idea how many rugby players took the knee at Magic Weekend, but some of them did. It's certainly not just footballers.
     
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  8. DMD

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    It's in remembrance to his father, who was shot dead due to a gang turf war in Jamaica when Stirling was two years old. The family left there due to the guns, gangs, poverty and crime, and came to England, where he's done rather well for himself.
     
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    'Taking the knee' seems to upset a few on here.

    What is it that you find so upsetting exactly?

    Seems to me people are simply making a demonstration of what they believe are human rights.
     
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  10. DMD

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    It's not really a topic for here, as it becomes political very quickly, which is part of the issue. My comment on Stirling's tattoo raises a few other issues too.

    The reaction isn't about the cause, it's what the action actually represents. The reality is, those in the FA etc that initiated it, showed they were ignorant of what it represents. They've squirmed and wriggled rather than address that real concern ever since. There are far better ways of addressing it, especially with so many now wealthy role models existing for that subject in professional football.

    The fact there's little mention of the issues in Qatar shows the superficial nature of the initiative.
     
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  11. Trumpton Tiger.

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    If the cricketers stopped in July, and I'd doubt if they ever started it who else besides footballers are then ? That was my post.
    Didn't see much evidence of it in the Olympics either.
     
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    The fact that England players were subject to monkey chants this week, shows there is still much to be done and it's perfectly reasonable for the England players to make a stand against it.
     
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    You mean apart from the rugby players at Magic Weekend?
     
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  14. Kempton

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    Thanks Dutch, I take very little interest Tbf. I am thinking though, that if people want to ttk. There's absolutely nothing can stop them and because these people are making what is a very peaceful protest, why feel the need anyway?
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Maybe people don’t like politics in their football?
     
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  16. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Any sport. I see no other sports taking the knee and being put under the spotlight because of it.
     
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  17. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Or players using the game as a platform to make stupid personal or political statements on the back of it. Just play the game, do the job you are paid for and leave the politics to the politicians.
     
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  18. DMD

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    I can't really answer that without breaking the no politics rule, but I'd suggest you look at the background to BLM, its founders and its use of taking the knee.

    There's lots more, but it's not for here, and that in itself tells a message about dragging politics (which it certainly is) in to football.
     
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  19. Kalman

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    I don't really care about athletes using sports as a platform for political activism. Don't have a problem with them kneeling for a cause that they believe in. My issue starts and ends with them using their platform to protest against one injustice whilst wilfully participating in another injustice.

    One you make the decision to say "I'm using my platform as a pro athlete to oppose this form of persecution", you don't then get to play football in stadiums built on the backs of dead migrants subjected to slave labour without criticism.
     
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  20. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    100% agree
     
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