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  1. Gessa

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    Those were 100 dollar bills too, what 10k per bag? how many bags. More worrying, how many more weapons it will buy.
     
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  2. brb

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    Sorry didn't watch it all first time....I thought it was the Afghan stash which I'd already seen, but then went back and watched the rest, I knew they had taken an American arms depot also, so I started to think is this various videos cut together. Not seen the money before, that was the first video I've seen of it.
     
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    Where did the money come from and what was it doing there, it was an absolute fortune just to be lying around.
     
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  4. brb

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    No idea mate. I know the Afghan army were being paid by the Americans or West. I assume the money in the banks was either emptied or frozen but no idea on all that cash there.

    It appears Stuart Ramsey had already got out, he's now in Doha....I did wonder yesterday if he was leaving the area. Three injured US Marines now being reported. 2 seperate explosions, suicide bomb and a car bomb.
     
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    I imagine the next 24-72 hours will see the start of a blood bath.
     
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  6. Number 1 Jasper

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    Isis k are hard line Taliban . There is more than one Taliban .
     
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  7. Gessa

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    Yes, they believe the regular Taliban don't go far enough.
     
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    I remember hearing that President Ghani had millions of dollars in cash which he left when he fled. Could be his. Or the others who also jumped ship.

    It shows how much chaos there was when the Americans left and the Taliban came calling that so much cash was just abandoned.

    Perks of being a member of the Taliban are good though... Your own company armoured vehicle, any wing of the presidential palace, all the weapons you could ever need, and a few million dollars in your personal vault.
     
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  9. Treble

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    Not quite mate. Just another more extremist organisation. Not Taliban, not Al Quaeda either.

    The ISIS K believe any discussion with Americans makes you a traitor. They don't believe any muslim should be making any agreements or pacts with the Americans. They have now classed the Taliban as infidels in effect lol.

    Tactic by ISIS K is to undermine the Taliban by showing the Americans that the promise the Taliban made NOT to allow any terrorist organisation to use their country as a base for terrorist acts was a lie. Whilst also trying to oust the Taliban because they consider them as sell outs.
     
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    Fair enough I stand corrected. Pretty sure I read on the BBC thery were or are viewed as Extreme Taliban .
     
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  11. Kalman

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    ISIS are Wahhabis of the Hanbali school and the Taliban are Deobandis of the Hanafi school. Both Hanbali and Hanafi are Sunni schools.

    For people not familiar with Islamic schools and doctrines, the best way to simplify or compare it would be ISIS = hardline Protestant evangelists in the US and Taliban = Amish, but with guns. ISIS want an all-encompassing caliphate that covers the entire world whereas the Taliban are quite content to just have their own emirate in Afghanistan. ISIS are aggressive expansionists and the Taliban are more like patriotic, traditionalist isolationists.
     
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    They all stem from the same pool mate, back when Afghan were at war with Russia and then the first Iraq War.

    Apparently ISIS K actively recruit those who are kicked out from regular ISIS and Al Qaeda for being too extreme. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
     
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  14. Kalman

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    It's also important to note that the Taliban's ideology, Deobandism, started off as an anti-colonial movement under British rule. It was essentially "all foreign occupiers should **** off and let us live under what we consider our traditional Islamic and Pashtun way of living without colonial influence".

    ISIS are more like "we want to conquer as much territory as possible for the caliphate and force everyone under our rule to conform to our extremely puritanical interpretation of Sunni Islam".

    It's easy to lump them all together because we find their views abhorrent or whatever but there are important differences. I would even go as far to say the Taliban don't fit the 'terrorist' label; they're better described as 'insurgents'. Whilst they were affiliated with al-Qaeda, who are definitely a terrorist org, that was more due to economic practicality then ideological links. The Taliban commanders and rank-and-file are piss-poor Pashtun tribals who are mostly shepherds, whilst al-Qaeda were/are an international terrorist organisation with extremely wealthy backers from Arab Gulf states, the main one being the Bin Laden family. The affiliation between the Taliban and al-Qaeda was purely down to the fact the Taliban needed money for weapons to conduct their insurgency and al-Qaeda had money to spare and needed a base of operations for their training camps, nothing more. It's likely al-Qaeda viewed the Taliban as rural hicks who spoke a non-Arabic language and the Taliban viewed al-Qaeda as another group of foreign imposters who they reluctantly let operate in their territory.
     
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  15. Milky

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    I guess if they were more united they would be the Taliband.
     
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    Piers Morgan is ISIS-K?
     
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  17. brb

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    Biden will have to come out and make a speech now, reports coming out US troops have been killed in this attack.

    If you remember Biden had been saying how no US lives had been lost for a certain period of time, he also said he would give a hard response if the troops become subject to any attack.

    Just got to wait to see if he can remember his own words now, but on previous showing of tv interviews, he has a hard job just remembering the names of those alongside him.
     
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  18. Kalman

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    What can he do though? Taliban already announced earlier this week or last week that there was a real threat of ISIS-K attempting an attack on civilians near Kabul Airport. All the Taliban will do is say "we warned you something like this could happen, now stop pissing about and **** off by 31st August". Taliban hold all the cards in this scenario. They patrol the roads and checkpoints to the airports. I don't believe the theories by some 'foreign affairs experts' that the Taliban allowed this attack to happen. For one, they lost fighters during the explosion and also it weakens their appearance of control over Kabul and the country because a rival group committed atrocities under their jurisdiction. They want to consolidate their power as the legitimate government of Afghanistan and a rag-tag group of suicide-bombers who they despise killing their fighters and civilians is a bad look for them.
     
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  19. Milky

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    Drones will kill some Afghans and then America will call it even.
     
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  20. Number 1 Jasper

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    I wonder how many weapons from invading forces the Taliban etc have got after the invading forces left? I'm talking ones that have not been bought .
     
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