Those with blinkers won't want to listen to this interview or read the book "What really makes you ill" which was published before Covid, by David Parker and Dawn Lester. https://www.bitchute.com/video/9FKTMyPR71db/ When you have time.......open up your mind, instead of being sucked in by the mass!! Worth a listen..
Hmm... a book written by an accountant and an engineer, and completely and utterly debunked by sciencebasedmedicine.org. Not exactly the best start. A few quotes on it: "Their minds must have been so open that their brains fell out." "Instead of asking what was true, they started with a preconceived belief that they already “knew” the truth." "Their “research” was classic confirmation bias: they simply located everything they could find that questioned the dominant paradigm." "They believe all electromagnetic fields are harmful, whether from cell phones or home appliances." "Their starting point was their belief that germ theory is a myth. Yes, they are germ theory denialists." "They say neutrons have positive and negative charges which balance each other. Wrong! Neutrons have no charge." "Emerging science reveals that direct contact with the ground allows you to receive an energy infusion.” What?! Honestly onefor it's good to have an open mind but that does not mean believing everything you read. Getting that comment wrong on neutrons is unforgivable, you learn that at GCSE for god's sake. You've genuinely reached a point where you're so 'open-minded' that you believe that you're the only one who can 'see the truth' and in doing so it's causing you to believe everything you read. I'm sorry but a book with that many factual errors is a complete and utter non-starter and it just shows an inability to filter out healthy scepticism versus downright stupidity.
True to known factors, but measurements are restricted! VERY TRUE you fall from a 30 story building onto a concrete floor and a whole mass of energy is infused into the bodies frame … smashing bones, ejecting blood etc etc etc ….lol
Did you listen Bob? all the way through? I recommend you do before taking extracts to fit your argument....It it a very good interview regarding all sorts of diseases and how we've been misled.....so many things we've been told by scientists throughout the years, being so wrong.. Hmm... a book written by an accountant and an engineer, and completely and utterly debunked by sciencebasedmedicine.org. Not exactly the best start......A very good start IMO, they need to be challenged... Blinkers and denial...hey that's fine....funny how certain scientists counter other scientists with invested interests...including within the media..Trying to isolate particles they nothing about.... Truth may not be available to the mass right now.....but it will.
Just out of interest, why do you believe this but not what everyone believes. Shall I go and speak to my two friends families and say it’s a miff? And before you ask, no there were no underlying illnesses. They caught it and they both didn’t recover. Or shall I go and tell one of my other friends it’s a miff this long term Covid stuff? A fit and active person who caught it last year who now finds himself having afternoon naps. You say you’re more at risk of getting cancer. But you only know about cancer from medical people and mainstream media as you put it. So how do you know if it’s true or not?
Rod. People die of a host of things, Cancer itself is not just one definition, there are several types of cancer, which is why it's so difficult to cure....Millions of different ailments could contribute, with the billions pumped in, it's uncertain how far medical science has progressed in curing the disease or if they ever will. Scientists do not know what Covid actually is, it has not been identified, hence why there is no vaccine to eradicate it. We have been led to believe for centuries (some still teach) that "The black death" was a flea borne bacterial disease of rats that jumped to humans...moved and spread around by ships..but now with other scientific theories that seems unlikely and is riddled with flaws....It spread rapidly across the alps at temperatures far too cold for fleas to hatch and travelled over parts of France far too quick than a rat can travel...... Scientists are not always right and it's right that they are challenged......most of their findings are done on assumptions, which is not fact. We were told, not too long ago that we should buy diesel cars, as they were much kinder to our health and the environment, they even gave us incentives for cheaper cars and fuel....subsequently we learn, they indeed cause dreadful pollution to the atmosphere and causes respiratory problems (sounds familiar!) hence the banning in major city centres (tax income). I'm not going to tell you it's a miff or otherwise, that's for you to research if you can be arsed or just sit back and believe everything they tell you.. Rob made a point ""They believe all electromagnetic fields are harmful, whether from cell phones or home appliances." Now, what makes us so sure that electromagnetic devices or fields are not harmful..(I'm not saying they are but again need challenging) ...Do we think the scientists that have invested interests with Samsung or Apple or whoever would tell us and lose billions and billions of dollars..............yeah right. Rob also thinks we should believe everyone that's qualified......are we in the real world or Disney?? Rod, the interview is nearly 2 hours long, but worth a listen....they are not stupid and a different angle to what's been said through the media on a daily basis..
That doesn't mean it's wrong does it?? I see that you didn't bother listening to any of the interview, but just took quotes from SBM, (nice bit of research by the way!) whom are fairly controversial anyway...even to the point they mislead & dissected quite a few of the quotes given in their entirety ..i.e "The Black Death was caused by toxic chemicals in comet debris" which was only one example given of numerous possibilities but hey, it fits their argument and their judgement..from a pretty messy website full of typical science based assumptions/plausibilities & principals, not facts and not any more convincing than those taking time researching the bigger picture which challenges the scaremongering within the mainstream media & corporate companies that have invested interests.....IMO
Nope, didn't watch any of it, I wanted to research to see if it would be a waste of my time, and to no surprise, it would have been. I'm more than happy to listen to and read alternative views, I initially was a Brexit-supporter due to some documentaries that were recommended by people on here. I like to think I'm open minded. But that interview and 'book' are clearly nonsense. Honestly, how can you possibly value the opinion of 2 unqualified lunatics who as we can see can't even grasp basic science, over the opinions of actual qualified scientists? Trusting your life with people who can't even get GCSE level basics correct? They quite clearly haven't got a clue mate. There's only one with blinkers and denial here and it ain't me! You really need to drop this notion that 'science' is one body, or one organisation that can be warped and shifted. Science is ALWAYS challenged, that's exactly what it is. That's what makes it not always right, and that's why it is always improving. But to do this, you need genuine evidence. And these alternative 'theories' offer ZERO evidence. Nothing. Nada. Not one tiny bit. It says everything that you don't even know what you believe. You don't even know WHAT you're claiming. You just sway from criticism to criticism of the current state, claiming some sort of higher knowledge while offering absolutely nothing as to what you think the real situation is. You're just incredibly naive (not to be rude, but it's true), and I just pray it doesn't ever affect you seriously.
So you haven't read it or listened to it to get that alternative view....just because they are not qualified specifically..?...Most football fans are not qualified....must be all lunatics!! You can't call it a nonsense just because you can't be bothered to give it time of day.. So those that are not qualified in a particular field has to be wrong and are lunatics? That is so narrow minded Rob and quite worrying if most think like you. I've not said that their views are all correct at all, but research is research and you choose in your own mind what is feasible and what is not. Science is not based on genuine evidence or fact, it's assumptions, statistics and calculations, which any of these turns out to be wrong, then the evidence of the science changes. If science changes, when do we know when it's right? You take their word for it.......like thalidomide which was used to treat morning sickness during pregnancy back in the late 50s and early 60s..........hey but don't question it in fear of being called a lunatic.....why is that being naive? Are you are totally naive to think some large corporate companies i.e Oil, Electronics, Pharmaceuticals ( the list is endless) and alike don't influence or reward science based establishments to justify their invested interests? Come on Rob.....back in the real world..
Nope, not at all what I said. I won't listen to it because they are not remotely qualified and because they clearly can't even grasp the basics of science, so how on earth can they be trusted with something as complex as this? Electrons positively charged? Really? Germ theory not being real? I won't give anyone that thick the time of day no. Scientific results do not change. Our interpretation of them does and it gets better. If someone can provide scientific proof to challenge the current consensus then yes of course it should be listened to. And yes of course companies have a vested interest in getting the 'right' results. But you and your guys provide nothing to question it. Not a single calculable or quantitative thing to analyse. Just absolute waffle and pie in the sky crap with nothing to back it up. Which makes it, as the sane amongst us know, utter bullshit. Like I said, you can't provide any evidence whatsoever. You can't even make any claims because you don't know what you're claiming. Even YOU don't know what you stand for. You just listen to this conspiracy nonsense, with ZERO scientific basis, and do not have a decent enough BS filter to realise it's crap. If you ever come back with some actual proof, something measurable, then you might have a case.
Nutters never wear face masks or get vaccinated and will be the main reason why this pandemic will continue ad nauseum. I choose science over theories based on utter nonsense and until such time as the doubters and conspiracy theorists get a real brain that works the world will still turn despite their selfishness and stupidity. We need to consider what the advancing variants will do the health of the world because they will thrive in the world of doubters and theorists and therefore threaten the lives of others who have done the right thing. As a side note here in British Columbia we have just gone back to a mask wearing mandate for all indoor activities and I would suspect that we may possibly see a return to more advanced restrictions. For all those doubters that still stick to their guns on acceptance of the true facts here they are from Canada. British Columbia: Current active infections data. Hospitalizations. 71% Unvaccinated 13% Partial 16% Full The reported cases are heavily in the unvaccinated population and even higher in certain ethnic communities. The only reason for the rise in cases within the vaccinated community is due to the new variants creeping past the vaccines which has been created by the totally unvaccinated who are allowing the delta variant to mutate at will and unchecked. Shame on all of you who are not playing your part in getting us back to some kind of normalcy.
depends on the strength .. mobile phones are limited to milliwatts of power.....a % of people living under Pylons a few 000's amps/watts / volts [or live very, maybe 50-70m very close ] are not free 100% safe from eletro magnetic fields. note Electro magnetic field is result of a device generating it or voltage emitting it ...
First of all I haven't said I believe what these people have written and it really doesn't matter to me if they are qualified or not. I keep my mind OPEN, specific letters after their name is not the be all to me ...There are plenty of qualified people out there, that are completely useless in their fields, more than I know that are worthy tbh..( I've had, so say qualified potential employees, apply for jobs, completely brain dead and clueless) ...But I am happy to read or listen to those that have taken 10 years to research their findings and I will make up my own mind & thoughts, what is feasible and what is not.. Conspiracy is only conspiracy if you prove it to be conspiracy...which you can't.. You are adamant to dismiss their colossal amount of research over a decade based on a bit of Google search and out of context quotes from SBM. I've read clumps and have not seen that they claim that Electrons are positively charged, or The Black Death was caused by toxic chemicals in comet debris, which was one of many possible examples (out of context).... anyway that's it, that's your research done on it. He was an engineer & she an accountant, both thick ......well researched and well challenged! It's ok mate....You rely on everything that you are told as it obviously keeps you sane.. Science is always right and anything else is pie in the sky, unless it comes from someone that is qualified. Your mind is closed...even though scientific results do change, from lab to lab, year in year out, findings & statistics also change or altered as do making assumptions ... Scientific proof IMO is a bit questionable on all sides...At the time they thought they had proof that the thalidomide drug was safe. Initially the first few years it could be said statistically & scientifically that it was ..it was challenged too late for many....Maybe lunatics or conspiracy theorists were not qualified enough to challenge those findings. !! There's an article I've read not that long ago......from a qualified source called "Rewriting the textbooks: When science gets it wrong" jumping to conclusions when it pays to wait for facts.....The way information is gathered is quite often flawed....so even the evidence changes!!..........................but hey, probably crap & utter bullshit...not on the BBC or ITV and not what you want to hear from a lunatic!! NB. My stand is to be open minded and not to led by the general media & establishments often providing misinformation they want you to listen to. Scaremongering to extreme, changing goalposts whenever it feels fit for purpose at the time. Condemning those that make their own choices regarding vaccinations, face coverings and who they mix with etc, knowing full well that, at some point, we will all have to learn to live with this situation we find ourselves in, like we have in the past with the likes of flu.....................like flu, it's not going away........ NBB. I'm not qualified in science, medical science or a Dr of anything.....but I am married to a practice manager of quite a large NHS establishment. I am and have been updated for the past 20 years of what goes on within. I am often informed of various verbal statistics, making assumptions etc, Statistics relating to vaccinations given for flu & recently given for Covid......I've recently (approx 4 weeks) been informed that more on more positive cases of Covid have been reported from those that have had both jabs....and rising... But I'm not qualified so probably BS..and not worth listening to!!!
We will have to agree to disagree. I'm all for open mindedness, but what I can't stand is people spreading disinformation, actively telling people not to get their vaccines based on Facebook pseudoscience. It literally kills people. I'm not saying you've done this by the way onefor, all you've done is have your opinion which you're absolutely entitled to, but it's why people get frustrated over the topic. 2 points on this from me. First, 130,000 people killed isn't scaremongering imo. If we hadn't had any restrictions at all, the number would be enormously higher, but I do agree some of the tabloids in particular will whip up panic at a moments notice. Reporting from places like Brazil and India though, where people were literally dying in hospital corridors and on the street, that is not scaremongering. That is factual reporting and a warning of what could happen if we didn't lock down. Secondly, the bold bit, that's 100% to be expected, it's not news or something to worry about. The vaccines have a limited amount of efficacy and their impact will wane over time within people who are jabbed. Even if we vaccinated 100% of the population, that would then mean 100% of those with Covid would have be vaccinated. By that logic, that number is always going to go up if cases are rising, but over a long term it should help the cases drop, as well as the aggression of the infection, and it has demonstrably saved thousands of lives.
People get frustrated because I have an opinion?...Blimey, do I live in the wrong Country by any chance??!!! I get frustrated when people are happy to totally dismiss, ignore information/ research, just because they don't feel comfortable and it's away from the norm or unpopular amongst general media...jumping on a bandwagon of "it must be conspiracy".....hey it might be..(I've not said I believed any of it btw, falsely assuming Rob).but surely it's better to hear other sides/views/angles or opinions than just take some 3rd parties word for it.. How can you challenge something, without obtaining the said information?...TBF most qualifications involve a great deal of research, nothing different and who's to ask or judge the direction for that information?..... Of course most of that, is contained within narrow avenue..aiming to pass exams and ensure qualifications.. As you know already, I'm not convinced regarding the figures.....they have not been reported correctly from word go....yes I agree there was unusually high excess deaths and unpopular to most, I'm not entirely convinced of the source....or the measures that were put in place......that to me is still wide open...but that is another argument....Using places like Brazil & India as examples, doesn't sit with me either, both with masses of deprived dense populated areas, dreadful conditions & sanitation...it comes as no surprise to me they would struggle the most, with any health scare.. Without identifying the actual "virus" this will not go away.....the vaccination that is given is to prevent from serious illness, it will not eradicate it. IMO As with flu, by choice, we will have to accept what help there is available at a given time but will also have to live with the fact it's unlikely to disappear anytime soon..Other medical conditions should not and cannot be jeopardised any longer IMO . Normality will be decided by the population....... eventually...when everyone realises how much damage is being done by some of these ridiculous restrictions...... NB. Not long announced, NHS England prepares to vaccinate children between 12 - 15... IMO madness.....what with boosters every 6 months?.....baby's next, what a crazy world!!
Should you take 1 million to 10 million people [ example sample ] and scrutinise "findings! it is expotential. you take a sample from a stage, like 6 months in say . This could be from a population of ?,000,000 of whom at that point x% have had 1 jab y% have had both and z% have had none AND of the number of cases you get the infected. sample different numbers [ A B or C ]and you get a number [%] SIMPLEST FORM ...…. and that supports your comment. But is not the answer the answer is far more involved as to why, but the simple basis of the argument is the higher the sample the higher individual numbers. IT IS expected, not a concern with present day knowledge. A .. 1,000,000 = 80% non jabbed [nj] == 800,000 12% one jab [oj] == 120,000 8% two jabs [ tj] == 80,000 B .. 5,000,000 = 80% non jabbed [nj] == 4,00,000 12% one jab [oj] == 600,000 8% two jabs [ tj] == 400,000 C .. 10,000,000 = 80% non jabbed [nj] == 8,00,000 12% one jab [oj] == 120,000 8% two jabs [ tj] == 800,000
