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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Lol Tbf there has been bug periods of inactivity
    I am sure they will get better :)
    Diego is a good egg :)
     
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  2. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Hes alright.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    UEFA set to announce new FFP rules

    "The governing body announced earlier this year that they would review its FFP rules as a result of the financial crisis caused by the global pandemic.

    According to The Times, proposals will be unveiled at a convention on the future of European football that UEFA are set to host in Switzerland next month.

    The report states that clubs in European competition would be limited to spending a fixed percentage of their revenue, in the region of 70 per cent, on salaries.

    Any club in breach of those rules will have to pay a luxury tax where 'the equivalent or more' of any overspend would go into a pot to be shared among other clubs.
    UEFA's plans have surfaced one week on from Barcelona's shock announcement that Lionel Messi was to leave the club this summer after they were unable to register him due to La Liga regulations.

    As a result, the Argentine forward has joined French club Paris Saint-Germain on a free transfer, the striker signed a two-year deal worth a reported £25m per year earlier this week.
    These proposals centre around the high levels of spending on player's salaries, but offers scope for clubs to spend beyond their income, provided they are willing to pay the luxury tax.
    However, teams that repeatedly spend above the cap could face harsher sanctions, such as disqualification from European competitions, as UEFA believes clubs need to be deterred from overspending.

    The report likened these proposals to the system used in the United States in Major League Baseball and the National Basketball Association.

    UEFA are also set to make plans to prevent any future European Super League proposals, which Liverpool were controversially involved with earlier this year."

    Utterly pointless.

    When clubs are allow hide salaries away in holding companies to divert staff away from the club itself then this rule is already broken.
     
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  4. Zanjinho

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    Must have been before my time...
     
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    Without looking further into it I'd agree that it looks rather pointless.
    The "luxury tax" bit is an open invitation to the oiligarch clubs to carry on and buy whoever they want and pay the tax - or get round it in some way. Either way, they won't be stopped unless effective rules are brought in and correctly enforced to make them conform.
    I was never one to agree that FFP was purely a protectionist measure by the rich, but this change appears to be nothing more than that.
     
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  6. Zanjinho

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  8. johnsonsbaby

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    The ESL was wrong for many reasons, chiefly it's elitist, non competitive nature. As I said at the time, UEFA would have been rubbing their hands together in glee at the universal outrage that ensued because it meant it, as an organisation, maintained it's position as sole money grabbing, money making parasites. They couldn't have any of the people who actually earned the money, keep it.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    its a classic this.

    Palace fans are the most optimistic people you'd ever meet until game 1 and then they are the most pessimistic ever. its like bipolar.

    Villa fans are genuinely the most deluded in the prem now. they finished 11th i think and have done precious little to suggest they will get top 8 never mind top 6 bu they expect top 4 here.

    Everton fans as expected. If you appointed god himself they'd be angry assuming it was robbie fowler.

    I'm surprised southampton are that high, he chatter i see is massively negative.
     
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  10. Zanjinho

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    Not what it says
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    not its not, thats what i am saying that I hear villa fans saying. That optimism is unfounded imo.

    Like ok palace and brentford clearly are thinking they are optimistic of getting 17th. great. but for me villa are up there thinking they are going to be right up there.
     
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  12. Bumps

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    I’m surprised my pessimism does not warrant more than five percent lol
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Also fining clubs that overspend, all that hurts is the smaller clubs.
    Say city spend 50m over budget and win the league. They will earn more than the 50m ‘luxury tax’ which will be split among the other 19 teams (2.6m each).

    hardly a deterrent
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    What would be a better deterrent would be anything over the 70% is split between rest of the clubs, plus say 50% of league prize money or something. If you’re gonna fine then, the fines need to be big enough to actually have an impact. If you want to win the league, sure, but the extra money you win for it will go to your rivals to strengthen for the following year
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Or even better. Every 1% over you are, is minus 1 point in the league. Only way gonna stop teams is to punish their points total
     
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    Their lawyers would be all over it.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Has to be some kind of punishment that isn’t monetary.

    It reminds me of Bernie eccleston I think it was, he was punished for bribery? The way he got out of it was paying a fine <doh>
     
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  18. johnsonsbaby

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    European ban?
     
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  19. Germlands Nozzer

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    I think it may even just have been a settlement.
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Tried that numerous times and never managed to make it stick v top team though
     
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